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Where are the good players gone?

outofrealman

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Nearly everytime I play mutiplayer game these days I rage quit. I just wanna level up my 3lv commando and soloing is sometimes boring. And believe me, I do absolutely enough kills and damage in suicidual. At least I can solo some of the maps using my 3lv commando. However, nearly all of the players online dont even know how killing floor should be played. They either go rambo and die or steal every kill from you instead of covering the other side.

For example west london, when defending the tunnel, all 5 players stay together at the front as most of the zeds are there. Leaving me alone to kill everything at the other side of the tunnel. At later waves, it is impossible for me to take down all the husks, sirens, scrakes. And every time they see a scrake, they rage them. I either die or my armour is torn unnecessarily. And those zerkers refuse to kill a scrake even it is cake for zerkers because they can cut more than 10 clots' head off and get 10 kills instead of 1kill from scrake. And sometimes when those people notice I am at the 1st place of kills, they all come around me and nobody defend the other side AGAIN!

All fire bugs love to burn headless bloats to death causing teammates who are not medic or zerker hurt badly. Some sharpshooter like to knife husk for no reason is stead of butting a bullet in his head. I dont blame those 1lv or 2lv, I would like to think they are really new to this game. But many of those idiot are 5lv and 6lv. WHY? Is that leveling is so god damn easy making those 6lv dont even have enough experience to get pass wave 1? Why 3 sharpshooters can let 2 flesh pounds and 3 scrakes + unknown numbers of smaller zeds get inside the defending area?

It is really hard to made trough wave 7-9 in mutiplayer unless all of them rage leave.
 
Oh yeah? is it faster to burn a headless gorefast/bloat than playing bloated? ONLY commando is hard to level up.
Yeah, try not to be rude, cause headless specimen gave you more point then the one with head, but i don't really like to play as firebug, Commando and support specialist are the most hardest perk to level, play with me some time, i would let you kill all the stalker.
 
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I wonder this in just about every game I play. I'll admit, I don't consider myself a good player, and I haven't touched KF in a short while now (blame BFBC2, fantasy novels, and my fangorious desire to devour more and more high bitrate music at the speed of sound), but it truly could get ridiculous.

It's even worse when nobody is communicating or even trying to communicate. I can understand if you don't have a mic; I really can. I didn't have a mic for quite some time myself, but at least type once or twice when you have the chance.

At the moment, I'm willing to enjoy my other side-activities while I wait for the surge of players after the Mac update to die down. I have thrown dosh to far too many low level sharpies/supports only to watch them buy a flamethrower even when I told them to get a rifle or shotgun over the mic.

Anyways, my steam name is Blanketed Ratio at the moment. Do feel free to add me and invite me to games if you need somebody to play with. I'll just warn you in advance that I'm probably rusty, and you shouldn't place the responsibility of accurately x-bowing anything if I have to play SS at the moment.

Edit: Oh, and yes, I've seen the bumbling idiot level 5s and 6s too. I can't tell if they hacked their levels or power leveled so insanely hard that they never bothered to learn the game, but they tend to die even faster than the lv2s and 3s outside of Suicidal. It's bewildering.
 
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Yeah, try not to be rude, cause headless specimen gave you more point then the one with head, but i don't really like to play as firebug, Commando and support specialist are the most hardest perk to level, play with me some time, i would let you kill all the stalker.


I dont really feel you can have higher dmg when a zed's head is removed. I kill a gorefast with 4bodyshots + 1headshot and I can also kill it with one head shot + 4 body shot. Even it do give more dmg, WHO cares about several hundred (probably less in most cases) of dmg point when you need several MILLION dmg points? Try to make the team survive one more wave already gives you 10 times of dmg points. So, there are still NO POINT of killing headless zeds unless they are really a threat to any human,
 
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I dont really feel you can have higher dmg when a zed's head is removed. I kill a gorefast with 4bodyshots + 1headshot and I can also kill it with one head shot + 4 body shot. Even it do give more dmg, WHO cares about several hundred (probably less in most cases) of dmg point when you need several MILLION dmg points? Try to make the team survive one more wave already gives you 10 times of dmg points. So, there are still NO POINT of killing headless zeds unless they are really a threat to any human,
Really, think again, they are firebug, they will burn anything they see.
 
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I dont really feel you can have higher dmg when a zed's head is removed. I kill a gorefast with 4bodyshots + 1headshot and I can also kill it with one head shot + 4 body shot. Even it do give more dmg, WHO cares about several hundred (probably less in most cases) of dmg point when you need several MILLION dmg points? Try to make the team survive one more wave already gives you 10 times of dmg points. So, there are still NO POINT of killing headless zeds unless they are really a threat to any human,

Actually it is a fact that specimens take more damage when their head is removed. I myself play firebug alot, and I have never power levelled I am happy to say... well except for having a laugh on medic trying to see if I can keep an afker alive as a clot chews on his carcuss... but hell, 290k legit out of 297k is nothing to sneeze at either :p

Fact is when I play as a firebug, I love nothing more than watching a bloat pop under the FT. I don't know why, but there is something very satisfying about it. So even if the thing is headless I burn the hell out of it just to see them pop. Maybe thats bad form, but as long as I have enough ammo to last the wave, who cares? :)

Anyway back on point, yeah I have a number of people who play regularly in my server if I'm not in myself who are usually pretty good. Obviously it is suicidal to warn you, but heck, a game is a game right? ;)
 
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Actually it is a fact that specimens take more damage when their head is removed. I myself play firebug alot, and I have never power levelled I am happy to say... well except for having a laugh on medic trying to see if I can keep an afker alive as a clot chews on his carcuss... but hell, 290k legit out of 297k is nothing to sneeze at either :p

Fact is when I play as a firebug, I love nothing more than watching a bloat pop under the FT. I don't know why, but there is something very satisfying about it. So even if the thing is headless I burn the hell out of it just to see them pop. Maybe thats bad form, but as long as I have enough ammo to last the wave, who cares? :)

Anyway back on point, yeah I have a number of people who play regularly in my server if I'm not in myself who are usually pretty good. Obviously it is suicidal to warn you, but heck, a game is a game right? ;)


By the way I want to ask some question and you seems you play firebug offten, do flamethrower do more dmg if you burn zed's head? And, can you interupt a raged fp or scrake by burning them? (as you can interupt the movement of gorefasts,bloats,etc if you burn them)
 
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Mac happened. Lots of new players.
...do flamethrower do more dmg if you burn zed's head?
No. Fire is the only weapon that does not deal extra head shot damage.
And, can you interupt a raged fp or scrake by burning them? (as you can interupt the movement of gorefasts,bloats,etc if you burn them)
Yes. Sort of. Fire sometimes make them wander around in circles which give you time to kite them a bit further. All badly burned zombies also move slower (20% slower), but in suicidal everything move quite fast.
Actually it is a fact that specimens take more damage when their head is removed.
No they don't. Not in the way you think.

The single attack that killed the head deal twice damage and the zed take an instant 25% of total health extra damage when he lose his head.

After that a timer will start (which varies between different zeds, normally around 5 seconds) after which time the zed will die (unless killed before this time). This is called "bleeding out", but the zed does not actually take any extra damage over time during this time and he does not take extra damage from other sources either.
Fact is when I play as a firebug, I love nothing more than watching a bloat pop under the FT. I don't know why, but there is something very satisfying about it. So even if the thing is headless I burn the hell out of it just to see them pop. Maybe thats bad form, but as long as I have enough ammo to last the wave, who cares? :)
Bloat take extra damage from fire (so if you are leveling your perk you should spend extra ammo on bloats to level up faster). Husks take less damage from fire - on the other side firebugs take less damage from the fire husk shoot as well (even immune if you are high enough rank).
 
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Well that makes no sense, so unless I'm grossly mistaken I'm gonna have to correct you there dude, cause as you say you can kill a Zed before the bleed out time is up. I've killed plenty of specimens long before the bleed out was due to time up. It can also be proved by playing commando and popping a zeds head then keep shooting it. It still has a life bar and as you will see DOES still take damage. How can this obvious visible dmaage not affect the damage for your perk?

On the second point bBeing headless also amplifies the damage a zed takes, again take 2 bloats and play commando (you want to take an XBow or something for this.) Shoot one in the stomach raw with the Xbow and watch the damage, then the next one pop its head and then do the same. The headless Zed will take a slightly bigger hit on its health than the one with its head.

By the way I want to ask some question and you seems you play firebug offten, do flamethrower do more dmg if you burn zed's head? And, can you interupt a raged fp or scrake by burning them? (as you can interupt the movement of gorefasts,bloats,etc if you burn them)

This one puzzles me, because I always felt that a headshot with the flamethrower wasn't possible. However a few times I have actually popped a Zeds head as its died using the flamethrower. Never had a critical headshot mind you, but hey ho. So to answer... maybe, maybe not, but the difficulty of getting a headshot with the flamethrower is not worth the damage you get added with it if any.
 
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Most good players were driven out during free weekends and Game sales so we had a bunch of level 0-1 perk players joining suicidal servers and noobing it up. Insanity followed as a large chunk of the experienced player base went into hiding to escape the madness and the countless "YOUR SQUAD WAS WIPED OUT" screens, while the new, unexpierenced players made a ragequit from Killing Floor because they couldn't win or level their perks on Suicidal because they died so much. So is the way of KF.
 
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I dont blame those 1lv or 2lv, I would like to think they are really new to this game. But many of those idiot are 5lv and 6lv. WHY? Is that leveling is so god damn easy making those 6lv dont even have enough experience to get pass wave 1? Why 3 sharpshooters can let 2 flesh pounds and 3 scrakes + unknown numbers of smaller zeds get inside the defending area?

lol i doubt this is the answer to your question, but sometimes i just let my friends play on my account, usually they play normal and hard, but sometimes i leave the filter on suicidal and they join and get owned hard. as for the other lvl5's-6's, prob just noobs who grinded
 
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