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Russian new machingun

Really, most of these are HMG's, not LMG's, and would not be carried by one person. In fact, the USSR never really developed a light machinegun to rival the MG42, but the superior submachineguns compensated for this at close range. Perhaps instead of adding more machineguns, the PPSh could be ungimped?
 
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Aha, the Russians had more MG's eh?

Well maybe if you count the relatively mainsteam weapons sure, but the Germans had a lot of machine guns originally used for Aircraft converted for ground roles and used effectively. They also used several czech designs that they employed effectively on the battlefield. Lucky for them, the czech guns already came in the 7.92mm mauser calibre.

Now I'm not saying that we shouldn't model those machine guns, nor am i saying these should be given the same attention as the mainstream russian machine guns, but i'm merely saying the Germans had more then just mg34's and mg42's ;).


Some of the not-so known MG's

The MG 26(t) light machine gun. The German designation for the ZB 1926. Around 32,700 saw service.

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The MG 30(t) light machine gun. The German designation for the ZB 1930. Around 31,200 were captured, with an additional 10,400 produced until 1941. Romania had around 17,150 in service as well.

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(notice the similarities to the Bren, as this gun was the basis for the Bren design... this COULD be a bren but i doubt it,)

The MG 37(t) heavy machine gun. The German designation for the ZB 1937. Around 6,000 to 10,000 were captured by Germany following the occupation, with another 6,500 being produced until 1942. Romania also had about 8,000 of these in service.

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(a personal favorite)

The MG 30 light machine gun. Captured after the occupation of Austria, but ironically enough were originally sold to Austriaby Germany. Around 10,000 saw service.

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The MG 15 light machine gun. Traditionally used as aircraft main armament or as tailguns for bombers and heavy fighters, although in this case converted for ground use. About 17,650 of these were in service.

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The MG 17 light (?) machine gun. Traditionally used as aircraft main armament or as tailguns for bombers and heavy fighters, although in this case converted for ground use. Few differences differentiate it from the MG15, although 2 of the most noticeable are the increased rate of fire and the gun is generally belt fed, without the use of a magazine. Around 24,270 saw service.


The MG 81 machine gun and MG 81Z twin machine gun (used in the AA role for the most part). The MG 81 was another luftwaffe conversion for ground purposes, as it too became obsolete (just like the MG 15's and 17's it replaced) it saw it's way into use by the ground forces as converted machine guns and AA guns. Around 33,000+ saw service.

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(A single-barreled version of the mg81. This isn't the only form the mg81 single barrel came in, the bipod was often placed further back and it often employed a simple wooden stock).

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(the twin version without any sort of mount)

The MG 131 heavy machine gun. Giving the luftwaffes MG 131 a bipod and a shoulder piece produced a potent weapon for the German ground forces. Able to accept several ammunition types such as AP, Incendiary, and HE, it was good vs. lightly armoured vehicles, buildings of certain materials, and of course infantry. Fed by 250 round belts (which could be linked), it was a devastating weapon. It is unkown exactly how many of the 145,000 (give or take) produced found their way into the soldiers hands.

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(without any bipod or stock)

The MG 151 AA gun. The 15mm and 20mm MG 151's were used in the ground role as AA mounts. It is unclear how many were used.

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The WWI era MG 08 machine gun. Basically Germanys version of the Maxim design. Germany still had a number of these WWI era guns still in use at the outbreak of WWII, and were primarily regulated to secondary duties due to their obsolete nature.

The WWI era MG 08/15. A lighter version of the MG 08, it to was used by the Germans for the same purpose as the MG 08.

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(several MG 08's and MG 08/15's).


There were other machine guns as well, thought none important enough to mention really.

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ZB-30/MG-30(t) would make a nice addition for the German Waffen-SS imo.That's why I suggested it in this thread of mine:

http://www.redorchestragame.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13549

:p


Aha, neato :p. Although the picture you posted was of a MG 26(t) / ZB 1926, not the later varient.
 
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New MG would be okay
Would rather have current mgs fixed up

if going maxim

Make it heavy, make it slow to move, you get no ammo
If you get ammo, you move even slower, or not at all

personnaly I say screw the second mg for russians

give me the PTRS the semi auto version of the ptrd. I would be happy with that.
 
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Its a muzzle break.

Reduces felt recoil + makes the gun louder

Sorry, no. It's a flash-hider, it keeps the shooter from seeing the muzzle flash directly at night (it doesn't ELIMINATE muzzle-flash, just hides it from the shooter), and ruining his

And muzzle BRAKE, not break.

Before it happens, your M1A uses magzines, not clips. kthxbye.
 
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RO has 2 MG:s in German but only 1 on Russians.
Really Russians had more MG:s like Gorjunov SG-43 and SGM (USSR / Russia)
There is Gorjunov and SGM: [url]http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg35-e.htm[/URL]
Or those MGs:


DPM: [url]http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg34-e.htm[/URL]

Maxim: [url]http://www.blackrivermilitaria.com/1910.jpg[/URL]

KPV-14.5 / KPVT-14.5 heavy machinegun (USSR/Russia): [url]http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg01-e.htm[/URL]
And this DShK & DShKM 12.7: [url]http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg03-e.htm[/URL]

They have many MG:s in WW2

russians also have 2-3 different variants of the mosin, a semi auto rifle with a bayonet (yes Im jealous, it comes in handy)
and a PPS that is as accurate and deadly as the 7.92mm MP44


this whole evening out crap is annoying. one side should make due with what it has.
 
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Why not add a DT 29, is an MG already present in the game only tank crewman use it though. It has a bit higher rate of fire than the Dp 28, say like 500-700 Rpm, also it has a bigger magasine 60 rounds instead of 47 and it was also built in large numbers.

http://www.13thguardspoltavaskaya.com/uploads/7/2/1/8/7218124/1308751370.jpg

The gun weapon model already exists in the russian T34 tanks so why not supply it for infantry convert the preexistent weapon model for the russian Machinegunner class, maybe ?
RO2_SF_2011_T34_Int_01.jpg


Also have you heard about the lightweight portable maxim of the russian army in ww2 here's a pic

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Also here are some whelled maxim's seems like people are able to carry them around like trolley cars
Pulling1910.jpg
 
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