Hi, I'm here to present an idea Sarkis and me had several months ago. Since neither of us can map, this thread is basically a friendly invitation to any mappers out there who are interested to implement this idea.
The idea is the following:
Redesign existing maps in the following way: there is only 1 set of cap-points and the whole map is used. I would imagine some whole new level of gameplay and tactics opening up with this, as the effective battlefield would be WAY bigger. Let me demonstrate the idea with the map Mamayev-Kurgan, while stating that this idea can apply to any map.:
There is effectively 1 cap, but the cap area differs for both teams: there is an overlap in the middle, and the cap area extends towards the enemy spawn. The latter allows a team to 'over-advance' the middle position, without being punished for it (ie, you are still capping when overadvancing). The time to cap this 1 objective would be huge, like 10 minutes. The first team to capture the objective wins. Spawn points are at the far ends of the map and do not progress (as there is only 1 cap).
As this idea requires a cap with different areas for both teams, I asked the devs if this can be done, and apparently, yes, it can:
Is any brave mapper willing to test this idea out for 1 map, as a prototype (suggestion: Mamyev-Kurgan)? I'd imagine it would take way less time than designing a new map, but I'm no mapper
Cheers! :IS2:
The idea is the following:
Redesign existing maps in the following way: there is only 1 set of cap-points and the whole map is used. I would imagine some whole new level of gameplay and tactics opening up with this, as the effective battlefield would be WAY bigger. Let me demonstrate the idea with the map Mamayev-Kurgan, while stating that this idea can apply to any map.:
There is effectively 1 cap, but the cap area differs for both teams: there is an overlap in the middle, and the cap area extends towards the enemy spawn. The latter allows a team to 'over-advance' the middle position, without being punished for it (ie, you are still capping when overadvancing). The time to cap this 1 objective would be huge, like 10 minutes. The first team to capture the objective wins. Spawn points are at the far ends of the map and do not progress (as there is only 1 cap).
As this idea requires a cap with different areas for both teams, I asked the devs if this can be done, and apparently, yes, it can:
[TW]Swag said:Hello,
There isn't a means to have seperate volumes for both teams without an update to the objective itself; however, you can intersect a builder brush on two different ADDITIVE brushes that have the shape of the volumes you'd like to use and have them oriented so that each team typically uses the side of the volume nearer to them.
That's a bit of a hacky solution but I've had it work. I used the solution in a map so that I could separate sections of a building into capture zones.
[TW]Swag said:Proud_God said:Would your solution work for this?
Grts
It could.
1) Make a brush the size of that which you want the capture volume for Team 1 to be.
2) Add the brush
3) Make a brush the size of that which you want the capture volume for Team 2 to be
4) Add the brush
5) Make a cube brush that encompasses both Adds from Step 2 and 4
6) Press the Intersect button for the brush (this will wrap the builder brush around both Adds)
7) Make a ROPlaceableVolume from the brush
Note: You are going to want to make sure that the Adds in Steps 2 and 4 are fairly simplistic. Also, in Steps 2 and 4 make sure that the Adds are NOT intersecting any other BSP because the operation in Step 6 will intersect on ANY BSP it happens to come into contact with.
Is any brave mapper willing to test this idea out for 1 map, as a prototype (suggestion: Mamyev-Kurgan)? I'd imagine it would take way less time than designing a new map, but I'm no mapper
Cheers! :IS2:
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