How to kill a Tiger! Super vid!
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*holds up both hands, raising index and goes Crazy Dr E. Brown impression* But what if it was two tigers? Covering eachothers asses?
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Still, Cool =)
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Still, Cool =)
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I was under the impression a lot of German tanks were supported with panzergrenadiers, and that the allies relied more on air support when assaulting a German position with armour support.
Still though, terrible waste of life.
Still though, terrible waste of life.
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Oh right, like Tiger commanders didn't know about traversing on the tracks
Lol I noticed that too, I was like "U nub, give order for hard right instead of slowly turning the tower!"
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Still, it shows how awfully slow the traverse was!
What I want to know is, was the m10 traverse as painfully slow? (As it is in DH)
What I want to know is, was the m10 traverse as painfully slow? (As it is in DH)
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And it was just a video to show the general idea on the tactic. I am sure there are situations when it worked, and others when it didn't with all different variations with infantry support, air support, etc
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Yes, the M10 had a painfully slow traverse, hand cranked and took over 2 minutes to go 360.
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Yeah really adds to the futility of that tank.
I wish DH could show off numeric numbers better, as its proven that 1 tiger = 4 Shermans for example!
Will be a challenge for the Tiger crew as well as for the sacrificial lambs driving the Shermans!
I wish DH could show off numeric numbers better, as its proven that 1 tiger = 4 Shermans for example!
Will be a challenge for the Tiger crew as well as for the sacrificial lambs driving the Shermans!
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the video shows basically how the tactic works on paper, but in reality there are axamples enough of what really happened in these situations.
2 things would happen in 99% of the cases reported after the war,
-german tanks sees a bunch of allied tanks, german tanks waits untill the last vehicle of the column is in view, and then destroys the first tank, then the last tank. then he has all his time to take the other trapped tanks out one by one. this happened in the poteau ambush by example
- german tank sees a bunch of allied tanks, waits untill last vehicle is passed, joins the column from the rear and takes them out one by one using the tank in front of him as a shield. this happened several times in the ardennes.
funny enough, it seems that the allied tactic for ambushing german tanks was to open all fire as soon as you see 1 square inch of the first tank. wich was probably the best tactic to be used with such inferior tanks.
2 things would happen in 99% of the cases reported after the war,
-german tanks sees a bunch of allied tanks, german tanks waits untill the last vehicle of the column is in view, and then destroys the first tank, then the last tank. then he has all his time to take the other trapped tanks out one by one. this happened in the poteau ambush by example
- german tank sees a bunch of allied tanks, waits untill last vehicle is passed, joins the column from the rear and takes them out one by one using the tank in front of him as a shield. this happened several times in the ardennes.
funny enough, it seems that the allied tactic for ambushing german tanks was to open all fire as soon as you see 1 square inch of the first tank. wich was probably the best tactic to be used with such inferior tanks.
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Yeah thats why angling or aiming at sweet spots never really happened in RL!
As soon as a tank filled your sight you fired. With loads of variables working in your favour if your score the first hit!
This would include small fires causing the crew to panic & bail. Or causing major injury to crew members rendering them useless to continue fighting effectively! Or even hitting the turret in the right area so that it 'jams'.
Stuff no game can simulate basically!
Not simply hitting ammo or engine compartments causing catastrophic explosions!
As soon as a tank filled your sight you fired. With loads of variables working in your favour if your score the first hit!
This would include small fires causing the crew to panic & bail. Or causing major injury to crew members rendering them useless to continue fighting effectively! Or even hitting the turret in the right area so that it 'jams'.
Stuff no game can simulate basically!
Not simply hitting ammo or engine compartments causing catastrophic explosions!
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Yeah thats why angling or aiming at sweet spots never really happened in RL!
As soon as a tank filled your sight you fired. With loads of variables working in your favour if your score the first hit!
This would include small fires causing the crew to panic & bail. Or causing major injury to crew members rendering them useless to continue fighting effectively! Or even hitting the turret in the right area so that it 'jams'.
Stuff no game can simulate basically!
Not simply hitting ammo or engine compartments causing catastrophic explosions!
i feel the tank explosions in RO are inadequate actually.
Nice vid, but I agree with the others, what was the commander doing with his finger up his butt when he's supposed to be killing tanks?
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Aiming for "sweet spots" might have happened to some extent (Driver's front plate or such, depends on a tank though. It is still not the same as random instant nuclear explosions when hit one one though
), but one reason why angling is not good thing already by it's onw is that you simply expose yourself to the danger of immobilizing. If you can move you might have a chance or two, but if you're bogged just because your tracks got damaged or even broken...
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Aiming for "sweet spots" might have happened to some extent (Driver's front plate or such, depends on a tank though. It is still not the same as random instant nuclear explosions when hit one one though
Correct. Afaik Tiger crews usually tried to always face the enemy tank head on. Even with completely unsloped boxy armor.
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KrazyKraut said:
The Front Armor is not "completely unsloped" its partially sloped, the DFP is only slightly sloped but the Nose has a better slope -hense its better armor protection on the nose which is a much bigger target than the rather small DFP especially at a distance.
Yes, That seemed to be a common tactic Otto Carius + another Tiger used this tactic in an action near Dunaburg, Lativa to crush the advancing Soviets was re-reading an article on this peticular action reciently.SchutzeSepp said:
The Driver of the Tiger tank must have been AFK or maybe looking for a real Tiger tank (tiger in film is a poorly converted imitation) since the "Tiger" tank in the film defied all logic and allowed the Sherman to close in achieve a rear shot on it by having a "turret-speed" race ( judging from the speed in the film that was on low rpms 60 sec traverse on the Tiger, its much quicker with full rpms apparently the Driver was being a jerk ). The German panzer crews worked as a team they would always turn the thickest part of the tank towards the enemy especially when the tank was getting close.
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This tactic was also employed by Hermann Balck's 11th Panzer Division to great effectiveness in the region around Stalingrad. Balck was one of the most brilliant tank commanders and tacticians of the war, (Manstein certainly held that opinion of him) yet hardly anyone has ever heard about him.
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So that was how the allied tanks were able to overcome the German Tiger, for every Sherman that got shot down another would always take it's place as they had almost an infinite supply of materials and resources to make new ones on the go and the poor Germans had almost nothing near the end plus the Tigers would be very costly and an *** to manufacture in order to cover for the replacements.
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