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Children seeing KF

I disagree. Something Very terrible happened.

You hide behind the veil of internet anonymity and freely confess to such atrocious acts.
Let's hear you stand in front of a crowd of people and admit to doing those things.

If anything, the result of this behaviour is desensitization. You're immune to gore, violence, and porn because you have made it your own. It is now a part of you. Just as Killing Floor is a part of us; all of its gore, language, and NUDITY.

Nudity is actually natural, you have become desensitized to nature and have turned away from embracing it.
Instead you embrace fake morals telling you that nudity is bad.

*This has nothing to do with porn or showing nudity to kids, which should be kept away from children untill they are at a ready age, they just have no business with it yet at such an early age*

All that said, this is a game with gore, bad language and partial nudity, yes.
However, it is in your full right as a parent to deny your children to play it and take it away from them.
You have no reason to come here and complain that gore etc should be removed from this game. There are plenty of My Little Pony games out there for them to play instead.
There is no obligation AT ALL to remove gore specifically for your needs, because this is not that kind of game.
 
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[Dons adult cap and boots] Big talk people, thats right Jesters gonna get serious for a few minutes :D

I personally find blokes nudging me in the arm, pointing to a lass who admittedly looks very attactive and talking about how they'd love to hit that alot more deplorable than looking at porn. Nearly 100% of the time if I see a good looking girl at work I don't even batt an eyelid and carry on doing my job as normal. Its not that I haven't noticed, its simply that social graces mean that behaviour such as that is unacceptable. I even go up to them and ask them if they need any help in the same way I would approach a 75 year old bloke who is also browsing the shelves.

This however doesn't mean porn is wrong. Porn is what it is, its porn. Its a bi product of our intelligence against our perfectly natural animal instincts. Anyone who says "Porn is bad" is merely ignoring the fact that they are a mammal. Think about it, your brain is actually hard wired to be attracted to members of the opposite sex, and porn doesn't affect social graces at all... ya know... unless your in a park with a laptop or something.

Bottom line... if you dont like maps like Duke3D, or gore in your games, or even bad language in your games... dont play it :)
 
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[Dons adult cap and boots] Big talk people, thats right Jesters gonna get serious for a few minutes :D


I'll gladly take that cap and those boots for a few minutes, thanks.

I'm fourteen myself, and I frequently remind people of this. Do I ever get something along the lines of "You shouldn't be playing Killing Floor"? No. Not even once, and I've been playing KF for quite a while. Almost since it started.

Cussing, Nudity, etc. It's all normal. You'd be cussing too in the given situation. Nudity? TWI effectively "half-censored" it, so you still know the Stalker is female, but that it's not thrown at your face. literally sometimes.

Younger kids should ask their parents and vice versa before they play this. I asked my parents and vice versa, they didn't mind, and I've been enjoying this game ever since.


I WAS going to say something, well, revolutionary, but on my way to the computer I forgot it, astonishingly, so I just typed this here instead.
 
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lol I just played Duke 3D to see what all the fuss was about and it was rather tame compared to some of the custom maps on Wolfenstein: ET. Those had REAL girls not DoA looking chicks. With that said, parents should be more concerned about giving their children access to Google with safe search off rather than seeing what they saw when they were being breastfed years ago.
 
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omar gets the big boy boots and hat now.

The only way to truly "scar" someones mind is to have them visit /b for 5 minutes.

This is an 18+ game. Meaning adults only basically. Adults invented things like porn and adults love nudity. Why would somebody who doesn't like those things either A: buy this game for their kids or B: play this game themselves.

Why are people so uptight about naked people :/ we only like porn cuz human instincts make us want to procreate and enjoy it. to say that nudity is bad is like saying that being a human being is bad. Damn I've seen way worse games then KF gore and nudity wise.
 
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yeah look what we got from that as a result.....Rosie O'Donnell and Ellen Degeneris EWWWY!!!!! :eek: BUT on the other hand, think of all the beautiful lesbian moments we've had :D

ok so, the new plan is all baby boys MUST be breastfed so we don't get any gay guys, but baby girls can be breastfed depending on their potential hotness (take a look at mom to guesstimate :p)

proposal to Congress???

but seriously, i don't think it's nudity or partial nudity, but actual pornography that sets people off. difference between art and erotica, at least that's the way i view it.
 
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I think parents should stop shifting the blame onto video game developers and should start taking responsibility for their children. If they don't want their children to play a game with blood, gore, nudity, swearing, or any other possibility offense material then they should stop them.

There's no excuse for bad parenting.
 
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So wait, is it just me or am I the only one who thinks that eighteen plus equals the same as:

If you think you're mature enough for a game, then play it and find out, regardless of age. That and asking your parents before mentally murdering your own mind by playing horror games at age eight.

Someone tell me where I'm going with this, I have no idea.
 
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If you think you're mature enough for a game, then play it and find out, regardless of age. That and asking your parents before mentally murdering your own mind by playing horror games at age eight.

The problem\issue\joke (if you want to call it that) is this: age ratings are usually there for some sort of reason, even though occasionally they seem rather lame. Now let's say some parents goes and buys game a game for their children after they are DOWANTDOWANTDOWANTDOWANT about it long enough, let's say GTA3\4 so for their 10 year old. Then let's presume the kid decides that woah it's awesome and then goes ape**** and does something nasty and he says "I saw it in a game", then the parents will raise a hell about it despite the fact they were the one ignoring the ratings in the first place.

When it comes to subjective point of view, some people might be fine and not have issues by game X even if they are notably under the rating, while some people who are adults still finds some stuff gross or inappropriate. Then comes the scenario where the parent is concerned that the junior might be seeing him\her playing something that isn't really appropriate.

We could also add the one odd variable that typically if E.G. someone sees something really scary or gross - whether it is a game or something on the internet - they rarely mention about it to their parents. It takes more of an exception for someone to talk about it rather than just keep quiet. It's not just about finding out is someone mature enough or not, it's combination of people being stupid and that not many can really expect what they're going to find behind the rating. I could use Silent Hill 2 as an example: the game was rated 16+ by PEGI IIRC yet if you can really understand what is going on you want to ask why there's no 18+ rating (as most of the stuff that's ****ed up is very obscure).

If you can play 18+ rated game without any issues while being notably under it, fine. There's plenty of people who can't and plenty of silly parents who don't even bother checking the ratings and then howl like it's the end of the world once they figure out the game had inappropriate material to their junior.
 
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The big problem is there are alot of crap parents that rely on games to babysit their kids for them because they are too lazy to look after them themselves.

I work in game retail and we are LEGALLY required to refuse sale to minors and explain the content of games to a guardian we suspect to be buying for a minor. I personally have stressed the references to drugs and prostitution in games like Saints Row 2 and GTA4 and only about 3 parents in my entire 2 years working there have decided not to buy the game.

In my opinion the parents have ZERO comeback if their child plays a game that is unsuitable for their age. There is a clear age rating on the front of the game box and retailers are legally required to explain the content before sale. It is hypocritical to say "violent games have offensive content and should be banned" when movies like Passion of the Christ are far more disturbing, and yet they are regarded as a work of art.

Sorry I watched a video of some stupid woman slandering games for their content while completely ignoring the fact that children shouldn't have access to these games period. Kinda got me a bit riled :p
 
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The problem\issue\joke (if you want to call it that) is this: age ratings are usually there for some sort of reason, even though occasionally they seem rather lame. Now let's say some parents goes and buys game a game for their children after they are DOWANTDOWANTDOWANTDOWANT about it long enough, let's say GTA3\4 so for their 10 year old. Then let's presume the kid decides that woah it's awesome and then goes ape**** and does something nasty and he says "I saw it in a game", then the parents will raise a hell about it despite the fact they were the one ignoring the ratings in the first place.

When it comes to subjective point of view, some people might be fine and not have issues by game X even if they are notably under the rating, while some people who are adults still finds some stuff gross or inappropriate. Then comes the scenario where the parent is concerned that the junior might be seeing him\her playing something that isn't really appropriate.

We could also add the one odd variable that typically if E.G. someone sees something really scary or gross - whether it is a game or something on the internet - they rarely mention about it to their parents. It takes more of an exception for someone to talk about it rather than just keep quiet. It's not just about finding out is someone mature enough or not, it's combination of people being stupid and that not many can really expect what they're going to find behind the rating. I could use Silent Hill 2 as an example: the game was rated 16+ by PEGI IIRC yet if you can really understand what is going on you want to ask why there's no 18+ rating (as most of the stuff that's ****ed up is very obscure).

If you can play 18+ rated game without any issues while being notably under it, fine. There's plenty of people who can't and plenty of silly parents who don't even bother checking the ratings and then howl like it's the end of the world once they figure out the game had inappropriate material to their junior.

TL;DR

Heh, no, I jest.

You're right, kids shooting people because they saw it in a game is a guardian's fault. But, honestly, I've never seen a kid stupid enough to follow anything from video games.

Except kung-fu movies.
 
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