Falling to the ground when shot in the feet/legs

[The_Emperor]

Hiho

basically the title yet states the idea of the thread but I go for a more detailed description.

Imagine you can't see your enemy's upper body and head but you can see his legs and feet. Now where this could occur? When he's behind a vehicle or standing on the stairs. In Ostfront or other games you'd be just shooting his feet/legs until there is no hitpoints left. Now what about you shooting his legs and he's falling to the ground? Now you could headshot him or whatever.

The idea to post my idea derived from this posting

I hope you won't be able to pistol whip somebody in the foot to death like in Ost front.

But also from thoughts about the actual gameplay and the things I've seen A.I. soldiers are reacting in several (arcade) games. F.ex. Crysis, Call of Duty series.


Fellas, your thoughts please!

 

[RedGuardist]

In RO:OST, if you shoot enemy to legs, enemy usually "dies". That happens, if character is wounded severely and incapacitated. Then the game renders character "dead". And usually that

 

[The_Emperor]

Well sure one can state this useless but I thought this might be something extraordinary to differ even more from standard arcade shooters.
Actually you don't die at once just because you're shot in the legs. A different thing is when they are really ripped off by a grenade or other explosive anti-men device.

 

[RedGuardist]

Actually you don't die at once just because you're shot in the legs. A different thing is when they are really ripped off by a grenade or other explosive anti-men device.

I am not sure, are you talking about RO:OST or real life.

In real life, no you would not die instantly. But in game you do. You have to understand that allthought IRL soldier would not die instantly from hit to leg/legs, in game it

 

[The_Emperor]

I think we're about the wrong point. I do understand that no one wants to play a soldier waiting for dying.
I just meant that like one shot to the leg should cause that you fall to the ground. That several players might whine about losing control, well did TWI listen to those who said "Ostfront is a nice game but we need crosshairs!"? They didn't.

Still I will like the game also without this feature.

 

[Reise]

I'm kinda in the same boat as RedGuardist.

Falling to the floor would be a neat effect, but the way RO works, that would usually be a kill shot and they would fall anyway.

If it doesn't "kill" them, then as far as we know he should be OK to move without falling.

But, you never know. Maybe the damage system is a lot more developed than that and can handle such effects realistically. If that's true then I wouldn't object as long as the falling down is kept to a minimum to avoid headaches.

 

[Xendance]

Shot to toe -> fall onto ground.

Sounds reasonable to me tbh.

 

[The_Emperor]

Sure the engine needs to be able to handle this. But as people have such a large belief in the UE3 and we yet saw that bullet penetration is possible I thought this is something that can be shown with the engine.

If the engine can only handle as much as the UE2.5 did well then we gotta live with that.

 

[Xendance]

In UT 3 you can preff F for feign death. You basically ragdoll down and after a while an animation kicks in and you get up. Sure it may not be as sophisticated as euphoria (the stuff that powers things like GTA 4 etc), but it works.

 

[Ermac]

I am not sure, are you talking about RO:OST or real life.

In real life, no you would not die instantly. But in game you do. You have to understand that allthought IRL soldier would not die instantly from hit to leg/legs, in game it

 

[Zetsumei]

Ostfront had limping but with a time limit.

Personally i would prefer the removal of the time limit, but rather making the limping stop when you bandage yourself. Not realistic either but maybe comparible to spalking.

 

[Mr Milkman]

I think you should fall to the ground.. it would be annoying, but realistic. I mean if I got shot in the shoulder I'd probably fall to the ground crying IRL anyways...
Plus I heard some soldier talking once saying that a guy got shot in the leg, bullet hit his knee cap or something and ricocheted up through his torso and killed him...

oohh, what could be cool is that if u r shot in the leg, u lay there screaming for help and crying.. and u loose control of ur character (die) respawn and your "old" character is now an NPC and you can put him out of his misery unless someone beat u to it! haha...

 

[RiccardoTheBeAst]

i suggest to do as in ArmA....if you are shotted in the legs by a bullet, you must crawl, and you cannot walk until you are healed by a medic....

 

[IVIARSHALL]

I agree with Redguardist. I don't want any kind of Martyrium DON'T ****IN CHANGE RO GAMEPLAY .

 

[The_Emperor]

I agree with Redguardist. I don't want any kind of Martyrium DON'T ****IN CHANGE RO GAMEPLAY .

Matyrium? Who said, just because I named CoD's AI soldiers, it should be a life grenade you're dropping when dying?

Ostfront feels sometimes like a nice trip to the Eastern Front. By implementing this the player loses control just like you'd lose control of your body in reality. ppl here on the forums mostly mention realism to strengthen their argumentation but I know that 100% realism is like "Once killed - Blackscreen forever!". But believe this idea is within fair. On one side people complain that you can be bashed to death at your foot and now when you shortly lose control of your character and you do not even die (!) ppl scream like "Hang him for this bs idea!" WTF?

 

[The Masta]

i suggest to do as in ArmA....if you are shotted in the legs by a bullet, you must crawl, and you cannot walk until you are healed by a medic....

But as there are no medics in the game, I'd rather die from a few shots in the leg than having to crawl around the whole map.

PS:
That perk is called martyrdom in english, get the word right.

 

[smokeythebear]

I think it would be cool if when sprinting you fall forward when shot in the leg. Currently in ROOST when shot in the leg while sprinting you lose all your momentum instantly and move very slowly. If you fell to prone it would look a lot more natural, and most people when shot in that way will try and go prone anyway since they are immobile in a vulnerable position.

 

[The_Emperor]

Masta, hehe, I couldn't decide whether German or English wording sorry

Medics are yet banned from Eastern Front, it was forbidden to be one back then
No we all know why.

Still, how about falling to the ground and you can only crawl for a certain time? Like 10-15 secs?

 

[<*>Nora The Martyr]

I think its a good idea to have falling down implemented.

If you sprinting and a SMG bullet clips your leg your gonna fall down.

If a bomb or artillary goes off next to you I hope the cuncuss knocks you to the ground.

 

[LemoN]

Originally Posted by Ermac
I hope you won't be able to pistol whip somebody in the foot to death like in Ost front.

as allready stated by me, it IS realistic, if you have enough time