Worst war film ever made?
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What's so bad about BHD? Acting was mediocre but who cares. Other than that: historical accuracy was acceptable, except for nearly no mentioning of Malaysian or Pakistani troops. Atmosphere was great (very unique) and it get 100 bonus points for not being too emotional.
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Pearl Harbour, hands down.
There are many other really cheesy war flicks, but this one really impresses, it passes itself off as a war movie right there in the title, but is nothing more than a soap opera love triangle with some bad CGI planes and explosions added in there.
There are many other really cheesy war flicks, but this one really impresses, it passes itself off as a war movie right there in the title, but is nothing more than a soap opera love triangle with some bad CGI planes and explosions added in there.
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Are the Ilsa movies considered war-movies? 
(--I posted this somewhere else before so the pic might be outdated by now. Still pretty hilarious--)
I was looking at the imdb boards for "Ilsa - She Wolf of the SS" expecting to read some funny opinions on this movie. It's a nazi-torture-porn movie and therefore an excercise in bad taste. It may be tame by today's standards when it comes to how graphic actions are portrayed but in terms of inappropriateness and political incorrectness this is still near the top of the food chain. What amuses me most about this movie isn't so much the movie itself, but that a movie like this even exists! Which means there was someone crazy enough to think it up, there were people crazy enough to support this nonsense and to take part in it's production, there were people crazy enough to agree to act in this, and there must be people crazy enough to like it - or else the whole endeaver wouldn't have made any sense and the movie wouldn't be a cult-classic by now.
So, who are the people who like this movie?
This is a screenshot of the voting statistics at the imdb. It is unaltered except for the high-lights.
How awesome is that?
(--I posted this somewhere else before so the pic might be outdated by now. Still pretty hilarious--)
I was looking at the imdb boards for "Ilsa - She Wolf of the SS" expecting to read some funny opinions on this movie. It's a nazi-torture-porn movie and therefore an excercise in bad taste. It may be tame by today's standards when it comes to how graphic actions are portrayed but in terms of inappropriateness and political incorrectness this is still near the top of the food chain. What amuses me most about this movie isn't so much the movie itself, but that a movie like this even exists! Which means there was someone crazy enough to think it up, there were people crazy enough to support this nonsense and to take part in it's production, there were people crazy enough to agree to act in this, and there must be people crazy enough to like it - or else the whole endeaver wouldn't have made any sense and the movie wouldn't be a cult-classic by now.
So, who are the people who like this movie?
This is a screenshot of the voting statistics at the imdb. It is unaltered except for the high-lights.
How awesome is that?
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The Pakistanis are shown at the end of the film, bailing out the Americans with the APCs, and I believe it's a Pakistani who appears like an angelic saviour, offering the men still on foot glasses of clean water when they arrive at the stadium. They're not really mentioned prior because one of the key points of the operation the film portrays is that the Americans went in impulsively and without tellin any of other UN nations present in Somalia at the time.
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1. Windtalkers :Just a horribly made movie, with bad acting. Just trying to ride out the succes of Saving Private Ryan
2. Thin Red Line :A completely pointless movie with no storyline.
3. Pearl Harbour :If they took out all the love triangle **** from the movie, it'd be fairly decent, unfortanately they didn't.
4. When Trumpets Fade :A bad B-Movie full of bad acting and a with a bad plot.
5. That James Franco movie about the liberation of Cananatuan. :Same as Windatlkers, except is was 8 years to late.
U-571 is like Enemy at the Gates. Both are damn entertaining to watch, both are full of Hollywood Heroic ****. But neither of them are bad.
Battle of the Bulge is an old classic, although I agree about the German tanks, I understand why they used what they did, but they could have worked on them a bit.
Von Ryans Express is a classic, and nobody can talk **** about it.
Saving Private Ryan is a good movie, it's jsut that everyone has seen it about 50 times, and now it's old.
2. Thin Red Line :A completely pointless movie with no storyline.
3. Pearl Harbour :If they took out all the love triangle **** from the movie, it'd be fairly decent, unfortanately they didn't.
4. When Trumpets Fade :A bad B-Movie full of bad acting and a with a bad plot.
5. That James Franco movie about the liberation of Cananatuan. :Same as Windatlkers, except is was 8 years to late.
U-571 is like Enemy at the Gates. Both are damn entertaining to watch, both are full of Hollywood Heroic ****. But neither of them are bad.
Battle of the Bulge is an old classic, although I agree about the German tanks, I understand why they used what they did, but they could have worked on them a bit.
Von Ryans Express is a classic, and nobody can talk **** about it.
Saving Private Ryan is a good movie, it's jsut that everyone has seen it about 50 times, and now it's old.
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i was like 12 years old when i saw saving private ryan and i thought it was bloody awesome, special effects, battle feeling and such were lightyears ahead of all the other war movies i saw before it. obviously it seems alot less awesome now that know better.
one of the worst would be battle of the bulge, when youre a small kid you actually take those movies for reality, but now i know that nearly everything about it almost from A to Z is wrong. they must have taken the big "stereotype book about the battle of the bulge" and made their movie on that. battle scenes are obcene, acting is terribly overdone, historical accuracy is non-existant, germans attack in snow while it only started snowinga week after the battle began, when the germans were already being pushed out.
one of the worst would be battle of the bulge, when youre a small kid you actually take those movies for reality, but now i know that nearly everything about it almost from A to Z is wrong. they must have taken the big "stereotype book about the battle of the bulge" and made their movie on that. battle scenes are obcene, acting is terribly overdone, historical accuracy is non-existant, germans attack in snow while it only started snowinga week after the battle began, when the germans were already being pushed out.
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I saw worse. It did not try to ride on the success of SPR, if it had, it would have been western Europe all over again.
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I don't know about you or everyone else, but even though SPR goes more or less hollywoodish after the Omaha scene, overall they atleast made the basics more or less working; dialoque was ok, scenes were not too messy, not too much overemotional bull**** and the action was ok.
Realistic? Far from it. But again, if we go _that_ far with realism there's no movie that would be even remotedly suitable, even though this does not mean "ok it's a movie so it can be completely ****ed up overhyped piece of ****".
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Realism aside I thought the movie was for the most part very uninteresting (both from a historical aswell as a purely entertainment point of view) up until the final battle, which sure had its share of sillyness. Acting also was pretty bad (and I actually liked Hanks for example in Forest Gump, but he is not one bit convincing in this one). And the others? The band of stereotypes:
- bible-quoting sniper
- the sergeant's ever-true sidekick
- the nerdy coward that becomes a hero in the end
- the dumb, big guy
- the jew <- in Vietnam movies this role is replaced by the black guy, nowadays he has to be either Hispanic or some-Muslim-guy
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- bible-quoting sniper
- the sergeant's ever-true sidekick
- the nerdy coward that becomes a hero in the end
- the dumb, big guy
- the jew <- in Vietnam movies this role is replaced by the black guy, nowadays he has to be either Hispanic or some-Muslim-guy
...
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Pearl Harbor beats out Windtalkers because they had the effrontery to premiere it on an aircraft carrier deck in Pearl Harbor with surviving veterans invited as guests of honor!!! One can only wonder what those old vets thought of that piece of **** intelligence insulting travesty of a movie. It is honestly in the top 3 worst movies I have ever seen, and I've seen all of Ed Wood's movies!
Another worthy candidate is Green Berets the movie that treats the Vietnam war like a big game of cowboys and indians. Flyboys also comes to mind, but that said both of these movies are leagues above Pearl Harbor.
The Thin Red Line is a great movie if you can understand it, yes it can be taken as a little artsy fartsy, but if you've read the book you'll understand what they were trying for with the movie, as the book has a lot of introspection from the soldiers involved and the movie tried to deal with this. The movie is not just about war it's an exploration of the men fighting the war, their motives, their character and their reaction to the nightmare unfolding around them. That's where it's biggest fault lies though, I think they tried to go for too wide a scope with the characterization, they should have concentrated on fewer characters from the book. All criticism aside though this film as no place among the pieces of **** you guys are talking about in this thread.
Saving Private Ryan is an interesting one, I saw it at the cinema when I was 15 and it blew me away completely, it was like nothing I had ever seen before and personally for me it fostered a high degree of interest in WW2 and consequently much reading! The D-Day scene still stands as one of the best combat sequences ever put to film. In retrospect though as an adult watching it again through more wizened eyes I feel that this opening sequence is basically the only worthwhile portion of the entire film. The remainder of the movie is a host of stereotypes and cliches wrapped up in a neat and dramatic little Hollywood story. Even the final combat scene cannot save the movie as it plays out completely unrealistically, right down to the good guys arriving right at the last gasp to save the day. I certainly wouldn't list it as one of the worst war movies ever made, nor would I list it as one of the greatest, somewhere in the middle of the road I reckon.
Another worthy candidate is Green Berets the movie that treats the Vietnam war like a big game of cowboys and indians. Flyboys also comes to mind, but that said both of these movies are leagues above Pearl Harbor.
The Thin Red Line is a great movie if you can understand it, yes it can be taken as a little artsy fartsy, but if you've read the book you'll understand what they were trying for with the movie, as the book has a lot of introspection from the soldiers involved and the movie tried to deal with this. The movie is not just about war it's an exploration of the men fighting the war, their motives, their character and their reaction to the nightmare unfolding around them. That's where it's biggest fault lies though, I think they tried to go for too wide a scope with the characterization, they should have concentrated on fewer characters from the book. All criticism aside though this film as no place among the pieces of **** you guys are talking about in this thread.
Saving Private Ryan is an interesting one, I saw it at the cinema when I was 15 and it blew me away completely, it was like nothing I had ever seen before and personally for me it fostered a high degree of interest in WW2 and consequently much reading! The D-Day scene still stands as one of the best combat sequences ever put to film. In retrospect though as an adult watching it again through more wizened eyes I feel that this opening sequence is basically the only worthwhile portion of the entire film. The remainder of the movie is a host of stereotypes and cliches wrapped up in a neat and dramatic little Hollywood story. Even the final combat scene cannot save the movie as it plays out completely unrealistically, right down to the good guys arriving right at the last gasp to save the day. I certainly wouldn't list it as one of the worst war movies ever made, nor would I list it as one of the greatest, somewhere in the middle of the road I reckon.
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I saw worse. It did not try to ride on the success of SPR, if it had, it would have been western Europe all over again.
Yeah, it did. It came at a time whne developers saw "OMG!! Everyobody wan't WW2 movies again!!!11!!!" So they copied Saving Private Ryan to put it in the Pacific Theatre.
They put in the whole gruesome battlescene in at the beginning
Then they srated introdugin all the stereotypical characters.
Then they introduced the behind the lines/special service operation.
Then they wen't around, an it became clear who liked who, and who didn't.
Then at the end they had to big firefirght where alot of unrealistic Hollywood crap happens, and then most of the characters die.
They only problem, is while it worked in SPR, it didn't here. The movie was hampered by bad acting, and a bad storyline. (The basic storyline, that of the windtalkers. The Navajo Tribesmen who used their native language to code army messages in the Pacific Theartre is great. It's just hteya they wen't and screwed it up by adding a bunch of rather crappy actors ans some crappy sub-plots).
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Yeah, it did. It came at a time whne developers saw "OMG!! Everyobody wan't WW2 movies again!!!11!!!" So they copied Saving Private Ryan to put it in the Pacific Theatre.
They put in the whole gruesome battlescene in at the beginning
Then they srated introdugin all the stereotypical characters.
Then they introduced the behind the lines/special service operation.
Then they wen't around, an it became clear who liked who, and who didn't.
Then at the end they had to big firefirght where alot of unrealistic Hollywood crap happens, and then most of the characters die.
They only problem, is while it worked in SPR, it didn't here. The movie was hampered by bad acting, and a bad storyline. (The basic storyline, that of the windtalkers. The Navajo Tribesmen who used their native language to code army messages in the Pacific Theartre is great. It's just hteya they wen't and screwed it up by adding a bunch of rather crappy actors ans some crappy sub-plots).
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And this what makes it a plus in my checkbook. It shows that even "unknown" soldiers can do "heroic" deeds and won
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I cant say windtalkers because the native guy in there used to live a few miles from my place (never knew him, just same hometown).
Saving private douc... err ryan (I loved the scene where he ran up and stuck his tommy through the front view port of the tiger and shot everyone inside... not even going to start on whats wrong with that)
Pearl harbor (Yay lets take a massive tragedy and make it a girly cry fest, MTHERFCKERS!)
And massive lol at krazy krautz post about a steryotypical war movie, cept you missed the part where they ocassionaly pull a trick on you and combine the big dumb guy role with the jew/foreigner role....
Saving private douc... err ryan (I loved the scene where he ran up and stuck his tommy through the front view port of the tiger and shot everyone inside... not even going to start on whats wrong with that)
Pearl harbor (Yay lets take a massive tragedy and make it a girly cry fest, M
THERFCKERS!)And massive lol at krazy krautz post about a steryotypical war movie, cept you missed the part where they ocassionaly pull a trick on you and combine the big dumb guy role with the jew/foreigner role....
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