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Virginia Tech School Shooting

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Pavel said:
my school should let me come armed to prevent tragedies like this from happening.
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Virginia Tech and the Virginia State Legislature saw fit to kill legislation allowing students and faculty to effectively defend themselves even when so authorized by the state elsewhere.

I grieve for all the innocents lost. Already there are calls by the media for additional gun control now...
http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/wb/xp-50658

Jan 21, 2006
HB 1572, which would have allowed handguns on college campuses, died in subcommittee.
By Greg Esposito 381-1675

A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly.

House Bill 1572 didn't get through the House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety. It died Monday in the subcommittee stage, the first of several hurdles bills must overcome before becoming laws.

The bill was proposed by Del. Todd Gilbert, R-Shenandoah County, on behalf of the Virginia Citizens Defense League. Gilbert was unavailable Monday and spokesman Gary Frink would not comment on the bill's defeat other than to say the issue was dead for this General Assembly session.

Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

Del. Dave Nutter, R-Christiansburg, would not comment Monday because he was not part of the subcommittee that discussed the bill.

Most universities in Virginia require students and employees, other than police, to check their guns with police or campus security upon entering campus. The legislation was designed to prohibit public universities from making "rules or regulations limiting or abridging the ability of a student who possesses a valid concealed handgun permit ... from lawfully carrying a concealed handgun."

The legislation allowed for exceptions for participants in athletic events, storage of guns in residence halls and military training programs.

Last spring a Virginia Tech student was disciplined for bringing a handgun to class, despite having a concealed handgun permit. Some gun owners questioned the university's authority, while the Virginia Association of Chiefs of Police came out against the presence of guns on campus.

In June, Tech's governing board approved a violence prevention policy reiterating its ban on students or employees carrying guns and prohibiting visitors from bringing them into campus facilities.
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Wolfsglen said:
Far too much of this crap happening these days :( Once is terrible enough, but to keep happening so many times...
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Fame. Recognition. Respect (in their mind and among others who are similarly ill).

That is what the rampage shooter looks for. They want those immediately near them as well as the whole world to know they have power. To see their name and know what they did. ssasins seek this by killing one well known person. Rampage shooters seek it by topping the last headlined body count.

The best way to remove the key incentive is to ban the publishing and broadcasting of the shooters name as well as any pictures. Let official reports carry the names. Let text books on the subject use the name in a clinical sense.

Take the fame out of the equation and all that is left is settling a personal grudge. Bad, but not 32 people dead through out a building.
 
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I have read multiple reports listing a 9mm and a .22 and also multiple reports listing 2 9mm's as the weapons used

Also, it has recently been revealed that the gunman was a South Korean resident alien, a senior in English

According to what I've read, he was arguing with his girlfriend, who he thought was cheating on him. A student advisor came to try to settle the dispute. He ended up shooting them both, returning to his dorm room, rearming, and going across campus.
 
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