http://guns.connect.fi/gow/T34tank1.htmlheres a good web page all about the t34 tanks 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-vetscor/1065955/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-vetscor/1065955/posts some T34 reading
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eh ok.......
that site is crap
You read wrong, that's talking about another t34 version not the 34/85, which retained basically teh same armour in the front but had some incresed protection in the turret.
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About the "Christie-type" suspension on T-34s:
The original suspension failed the tests conducted by Americans, so they rejected it as a possibility to use for their modern tanks. Soviet Union, however, came up with their own inventions and improvements to that suspension, which made it uniquely their own.
US often tries to take credit for Christie-type suspension in T-34s but neglects to mention that little fact.
About the thread-starter's signature:
"The King Tiger could kill any tank on the battlefield at that time at distances of 2km. Not even the JSII or the Firefly could hurt one at those ranges."
"Could" and "did" are two different things. Regardless, however, JS-2s could and did engage and destroy KTs quite successfully.
Here's an article about JS-2 vs various German armor, including King Tiger:
JS-2 vs German Armor in WW2
From the article:
The original suspension failed the tests conducted by Americans, so they rejected it as a possibility to use for their modern tanks. Soviet Union, however, came up with their own inventions and improvements to that suspension, which made it uniquely their own.
US often tries to take credit for Christie-type suspension in T-34s but neglects to mention that little fact.
About the thread-starter's signature:
"The King Tiger could kill any tank on the battlefield at that time at distances of 2km. Not even the JSII or the Firefly could hurt one at those ranges."
"Could" and "did" are two different things. Regardless, however, JS-2s could and did engage and destroy KTs quite successfully.
Here's an article about JS-2 vs various German armor, including King Tiger:
JS-2 vs German Armor in WW2
From the article:
"The first engagement of Soviet tanks with King Tigers did not favor the Germans; on August 13 of 1944 a company of JS-2 tanks (the 3rd Battalion of the 71st Guards Heavy Tank Regiment) commanded 1st Lieutenant Klimenkov engaged in close combat with German tanks, knocked out one King Tiger and burnt another King Tiger. About at the same time, a single JS-2 of the 1st Lieutenant Udalov ambushed 7 King Tigers, knocked out one of them and burnt another one. Survived five German tanks attempted to retreat but Udalov made a maneuver and destroyed third King Tiger. Four other tanks flee in panic.
Anyway, engagements between JS-2's and King Tigers were rare because the Germans seldom used them on the Eastern Front. On 12 November 1944, not far from Budapest, a skirmish occurred between JS-2's and King Tigers of the 503rd PzAbt. Both sides lost several tanks. On January 12, 1945, a column of King Tigers of the 524th PzAbt engaged in close combat with JS-2's (near Lisuv). In the fierce battle both sides had heavy losses."
The links within the article are outdated because the site was changed to a PHP-driven site. However, I've found them manually through their search:
Report about Operations of the 71st Independent Guards Heavy Tank Regiment, Jul.14 - Aug.31, 1944
(Proof about the first engagement between JS-2s and KTs)
And here is an article and a report about Soviets testing captured King Tiger with some alarming results:
Was Tiger really King?
Short answer: No.
Enjoy!
PS Sometimes the links will return with a "Server Error". Just click "Reload" in your browser.
Anyway, engagements between JS-2's and King Tigers were rare because the Germans seldom used them on the Eastern Front. On 12 November 1944, not far from Budapest, a skirmish occurred between JS-2's and King Tigers of the 503rd PzAbt. Both sides lost several tanks. On January 12, 1945, a column of King Tigers of the 524th PzAbt engaged in close combat with JS-2's (near Lisuv). In the fierce battle both sides had heavy losses."
The links within the article are outdated because the site was changed to a PHP-driven site. However, I've found them manually through their search:
Report about Operations of the 71st Independent Guards Heavy Tank Regiment, Jul.14 - Aug.31, 1944
(Proof about the first engagement between JS-2s and KTs)
And here is an article and a report about Soviets testing captured King Tiger with some alarming results:
Was Tiger really King?
Short answer: No.
Enjoy!
PS Sometimes the links will return with a "Server Error". Just click "Reload" in your browser.
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Now people from axishistory will come here, look at the source of the info ("OMG, it has .ru in it!!") and call it a crap bolshevik commie propaganda..
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Those figures are pretty much correct - but only for a hit at "normal" - perpendicular to the armour. Any slope or angling of the armour will push those numbers down. At 30 degrees, for those rounds, you are looking at 59mm and 77mm (all depends who's figures you like, of course!).
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