drive enemys tank

[mrvim]

hello,

why cant drive a german tank driver a russian tank or a russian a german tank? i know that rommel captured a lot of english tanks in africa and used them against his enemy...may be we have more thrilling if a vehicle looks like from the own troop, but it is shooting. the pioneers has one more task: they could destroy the own vehicle to avoid capturing from the enemy soldiers (if the vehicle is behind the frontline)

 

[Murphy]

You need special educated tank crews. Those crews are trained with your tanks (only!). They can

 

[Berentzen]

i absolutly agree with you murphy

 

[AtW]

More importantly it would ruin the game by giving way too much advantage (on maps where enemy tanks can be easily captured like Orel) due to element of suprise, this would make everyone try to capture enemy tank, which IMO is not what the game should be about.

 

[Recce]

I'm not suggesting that it happens, but it be funny to see the die-hard solo tankers have their tank driven off by the enemy.

 

[D3terioNation]

No it would not...

Maybe the modding community can make a map where the germans use captured t-34s against infantry in some kind of city map. The t-34 could have a crudly painted on german cross or perhaps be completely recamoflaged?

Edit

Excellent source for modders

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/ctpic2.htm

Saweeet!!

 

[Recce]

If anyone is intrested in the PzKpfw T-34(r) and how they were painted, I suggest a trip over to the Achtung Panzer website for some nice photos and some history.

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/t34.htm


EDIT: Here's a picture of a captured StuG IIIG, pressed into service in the 5th Guard Armored Brigade, 4th Ukrainian Front. The Russians had left the original paint scheme, but added a load of Russian stars all over it. I'm not sure what I like most, the red stars or the "Death to the German Invaders" painted on the front.

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/images/sovstug.jpg


The real question is, how did both sides intend to keep themselves supplied with rounds and/or spares

 

[Boggs]

Not to mention how quickly a captured enemy tank would be destroyed by your own side since the tanks have no individual markings.

 

[D3terioNation]

If a tank was completely repainted then this would not occur

 

[The_Cook]

specialized training and honestly if you ever played BF2 and had all your vehicles stolen by the other team you'd understand why I am completly against this idea. Nothing worse than your team capping flags and then all of a sudden you're attacked from rear with your own tanks and die, and then spawn to have nothing to drive and kill them with. It would ruin gameplay.

 

[HotDang]

At 1000m I can differentiate the silhouettes of tanks most of the time and fire on the enemy ones. I cannot tell the difference between greyish green and greenish grey at that range. TBH this is one of the most i'll conceived suggestions to date.

 

[D3terioNation]

If germans got to use ruskie vehicles (& vice versa) they will spawn with it with friendly markings on it.

Anyways Im only for the idea as a modification not vanilla RO

 

[Deathsai]

Just...no. Don't turn this into some Battlefield crap.

 

[Richard_B.]

It would be nice when there would be some maps on which german defenders captured some allied tanks in a previous battle to use them the next time russians attacking(and vice versa). Those tanks should be clearly to identify as captured vehicels.

This one looks like when it has been repainted in a white or light crey color, so it should be no problem to identify it.
Another possibility would be to give the enemy a tank you do not have, like a captured ISU-85 for the germans or maybe a SU76i(rebuild Pz III) for the russians.
Another thing would be captured and changed enemy tanks, like this one:

KV-1 in dark yellow with cupola and german 7,5cm KwK, seen in the year 1943. COuld be a nice addition for some maps playing during this period.

 

[LukeFF]

For those that remember, one of the Summer Offensive maps for the mod (Korsun Airfield) featured captured Panthers in Soviet markings, and it played out pretty well, so there is a precedent for having captured tanks.

 

[Midshipman]

It would be nice to be able to drive abandonded half-tracks or clown cars. Capturing enemy tanks is a bit much though.

 

[EvilHobo]

Obligatory "this isn't BF2."

 

[Moz]

I agree with that EXCEPT on half-tracks and clowncars, if you can drive standard you can drive both of these vehicles.

 

[lumberg]

maybe there could be a special class of tank driver that could do this?

 

[jedinstven-o crni Wuk]

hello,

why cant drive a german tank driver a russian tank or a russian a german tank? i know that rommel captured a lot of english tanks in africa and used them against his enemy...may be we have more thrilling if a vehicle looks like from the own troop, but it is shooting. the pioneers has one more task: they could destroy the own vehicle to avoid capturing from the enemy soldiers (if the vehicle is behind the frontline)

how the game is played, this makes no sence, as no one woud use abadoned enemy tanks, in the midle of a fight. The fear of own fire, enemy units attacking and no knowlegde about the damage or how the mechanic works (as already pointed by murphy, you need special crews), woud not alow you to do it.

Enemy vehicles, that have been used in large quantities, like the many captured T34, have been only used, after they have been captured and sended back, with a own classification to prevent beeing killed by own units. Using them while the battle was never standart.

Only way, i see, woud be to give right away from the begining of the map the abilty, to use captured vehicles, as the T34/76 with german (black cross) markings for example, that woud make much more sence. There hase been a old costum map based on historical actions, where you had panthers fighting on german and russian side. Was realy fun to play.

I agree with that EXCEPT on half-tracks and clowncars, if you can drive standard you can drive both of these vehicles.

but no one woud ever do that realy in the heat of a battle, couse you will then become a shell magnet, to your own comrades, so just think about, entering a enemy car, just to get pined down by a stuka or own tank unit then ... . The difference is only for the game, there killed people can complain about, so i realy woud not like this ingame