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[Pinecone]

I have been an avid follower of RO since the beta for UT2004, and I have seen how the devs have improved so much since they won the contest. I have also been lurking on these forums for a while, contemplating whether or not I should buy this game (I most definetly will), but before I do so, l would like some questions answered:

1. Pop up shooters - In the beta, these people were most definetly the most contriversial. People would bring up the IS while crouched, pop up, and take out someone with good accuracy without putting up a very good fight. How has this been fixed?

2. Leaning - Once again, an issue in the beta. The devs strictly prohibited suggestions such as these (Or quickly dismissed, along with the suggestions for flamethrowers, medics, engineers, ect...). What was it that caused them to add this feature? Is it buggy at all in terms of hit detection? (DoD already has problems with bounding box, but lets not go there ).

3. Grenades - A recent thread talked about how they go too far, again. I remember the nades being good substites for mortars. Is it as bad as it was in the beta, or is it fixed?

The other subject is a request for a creation of a RO wikipedia. I think this would help in advertising, and help newbies become familiar with the game.

 

[int19h]

1. Pop up shooters - In the beta, these people were most definetly the most contriversial. People would bring up the IS while crouched, pop up, and take out someone with good accuracy without putting up a very good fight. How has this been fixed?

Having no idea how 'bad' it was, I can tell that the tactic still works (I use it myself from time to time). It's very limited however as unsupported IS get inaccurate very fast due to swaying, especially with rifles.

 

[Mr._Kong]

1. Well pop up shooting has not bothered me at all in the game, in fact thinking back I cant think of any tiems when I have run into a problem with it.

2. Leaning is great, hit detection works fine, great feature.

3. Well the grenades can be thrown pretty far still, but their power has been reduced. You can still jump throw though.

 

[Teapot]

The right lean is still very strong, because the camera point of view is on the top of the helmet.

In my opinion I still think grenades are a problem as far as their design goes.

Other than those problems the game is easily the best ww2 fps ive played.

 

[akd]

Yup, right lean prone can turn a rifleman into an invicible super sniper. The only solution I can see short of fixing the the game engine exploit is to give us rifle grenades.

 

[PsYcH0_Ch!cKeN]

1. It's always going to happen, but the new suppression effect (for those who aren't exploiting the unintended ability to turn it off) does work wonders. It's VERY hard to target anything when your gun is blurred to twice its normal width and you're seeing three of your target...

2. The lean mostly seems ok, but there seems to be something wrong with the bullet trajectories when you're in a lean. They're a bit whacked out and you can miss a perfectly aimed, straight-on shot from a lean that would be no problem if you're standing straight. I don't know if it's because of the angle, or the origin point of the bullet, or what. Even so, it's a very useful feature.

3. Grenades don't fly as far as they used to. Nowhere near it, even when you jump. Their blast radius was also reduced and a fun little bug atm with the fuses means that you literally just can't hold onto them for long enough to get much of a windup (when cooking nades/satchels, the timer goes at an accelerated rate). For the German ones anyway. Are grenade storms still annoying? Oh hell yes, but you're in more danger of being shot because you're too blurry too defend yourself than you are of actually being killed by one.

 

[King Ragnar]

I dont understand,do people see pop up shooting as a bad thing, i thought it was a good tactic and quite realistic to be honest. It isnt really that easy to be honest.

 

[druid]

Never played the mod, but in roost, when you are crouched, your viewpoint will go a little higher the instant you press the ironsights or movement keys.

 

[[-project.rattus-]]

I dont understand,do people see pop up shooting as a bad thing, i thought it was a good tactic and quite realistic to be honest. It isnt really that easy to be honest.

It isn't realistic if it is carried out like in the mod: being in full cover, aiming approximately at the enemy, popping up for the brink of a second, when back in cover, readjusting aim, then pop up and shoot instantly.

Gladly, I have not yet seen this in ostfront, as the weaponsway is usually hinderance enough, and the resting of a weapon takes a little time.

 

[Zetsumei]

1. It's always going to happen, but the new suppression effect (for those who aren't exploiting the unintended ability to turn it off) does work wonders. It's VERY hard to target anything when your gun is blurred to twice its normal width and you're seeing three of your target...

Why does everybody complain that you can turn the ****ing motion blur off. You'll get a ****ing black screen in return when it blurs which is seriously worse than some mild blur. Everybody always complained that the people with better computers had less of an disadvantage =\. And now suddenly having your screen go black is better than getting it blurred??

 

[EGF_PeeGee]

And now suddenly having your screen go black is better than getting it blurred??

That's just the point, the screen doesn't go black. Certainly not on my system. If I turn off motion blur, all that I get for suppression is a faint darkening of the view, barely noticeable.

 

[downxerd]

yeah, i get a faint flash of black, but i can still see who's shooting at me

though, it still works as suppression to me because i know im being shot at and therefore i am going to find cover. Sometimes.

 

[Mr._Kong]

I fidn the black screen to be easier to deal with, it is definitly easier to aim when you are say in the center of an arty barrage. BUt it is really anoying, I mean it just pissed me off having that black screen. So now I play with motion blur on.

 

[{YBBS}Sage]

It isn't realistic if it is carried out like in the mod: being in full cover, aiming approximately at the enemy, popping up for the brink of a second, when back in cover, readjusting aim, then pop up and shoot instantly.

That's not realistic? Pop a look, aim at the spot they'll be when you pop up next, pop up and pull the trigger?

 

[SiFi]

That's not realistic? Pop a look, aim at the spot they'll be when you pop up next, pop up and pull the trigger?

But in the mod, it was done at lightspeed, with no affect on your IS at all.

 

[Theodrake]

But in the mod, it was done at lightspeed, with no affect on your IS at all.

It may not be at lightspeed now, but with no real suppresive effect from MG, its real easy to use this to snipe the MG with rifle.

Also I love to crouch behind a sandbag with the Stg44. Just go to IS and you can almost instantly start shooting. On Odessa if you can get into the sandbags just in front of apartments, with a teamate or two behind you, you can take out a log of Russkies using this tactic. Unless you are facing someone you can accurately place a nade you are very difficult to kill. Most nades fall in front of sandbag or they over shoot. No suppressive effect so you just keep firing.