When I run my map and I die my body don't fall to the floor and remain in the same possition, this happen to bots also, anybody can help me? thanks
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It's probably because of the "KillLine", you should be able to see a red line in the front and side viewports. If your spawn points are below or will fall on this line they'll die. I'm not sure if you can move the line because I havn't subtracted a space tall enough. I'll be mapping later, i'll try to see what can be done about it.
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![[TW]DrGuppy](/data/avatars/s/0/171.jpg?1568638684){kind=avatar}
When I go to test my map and type suicide or kill myself somehow my character makes the death noise but he does not go into ragdoll physics, he just freezes on the spot and the weapons drop to the floor. This isn't really a big problem but it should be looked at.
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I mean the same that DrGuppy, I can walk around my map very well, but when I die my body freezes and don't fall to the ground and is stucked on the same place until it disapear.
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It sounds like a genui HOM problem ...
That is Hal Of Mirrors for al you newbs. Its a bsp problem where you created some strange mistake in a bsp or terrain. They are as deadly as hell. If you touch them and you dont have to walk directly over them, you are dead. Sometimes they can kill from one side of the map to another one. See them as tiny black holes with wormholes that connects 1 mistakes. Go look for your HOM problem. It should look as an anomalie in the map.
That is Hal Of Mirrors for al you newbs. Its a bsp problem where you created some strange mistake in a bsp or terrain. They are as deadly as hell. If you touch them and you dont have to walk directly over them, you are dead. Sometimes they can kill from one side of the map to another one. See them as tiny black holes with wormholes that connects 1 mistakes. Go look for your HOM problem. It should look as an anomalie in the map.
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Everyone has HOM problems then? Because when I die, my character doesn't fall either. To be honest I think its something editor/game related to be honest.
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HOM problems are pretty common in the engine. The more bsp you use the higher the chance that you have some HOM somewhere. The bsp part of UE2.5 isn't the best thing they made (epic).
You would be suprised how many maps have HOM problems. If you maybe look very good even the official TW and Epic maps will have them. Mostly you wont notice because they are not in the gameflow.
But for example I know of 4 known HOM problems in the original UT2004 DM maps.
I dont know why the Karma engine isn't kicking in to do the ragdoll. Propably cause the right trigger isnt triggered by these deads. I understood that suicides through console wont trigger the karma engine either. Propably a HOM is seen as a suicide and therefor dont trigger the ragdoll karma trigger. This is propably a bug and pretty easily fixed if you have the sourcecode ... Report this but not here
You would be suprised how many maps have HOM problems. If you maybe look very good even the official TW and Epic maps will have them. Mostly you wont notice because they are not in the gameflow.
But for example I know of 4 known HOM problems in the original UT2004 DM maps.
I dont know why the Karma engine isn't kicking in to do the ragdoll. Propably cause the right trigger isnt triggered by these deads. I understood that suicides through console wont trigger the karma engine either. Propably a HOM is seen as a suicide and therefor dont trigger the ragdoll karma trigger. This is propably a bug and pretty easily fixed if you have the sourcecode ... Report this but not here
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i was tried in a test map with a single brush cube, no more objects, and the problem is the same, when i die the ragdolls dont start. I'm thinking in that perhaps we need any actor for ragdolls?
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Or it is just an issue that only occurs when running it from the editor. Kind of like some issues that only appear when you host a game (for example the baby head bug). Could very well be possible that when a map is on a server it works without these problems.
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d3lux3 said:
an actor for ragdolls? never heard of that. The karma engine that controlls the ragdoll process (physics engine) is triggered within the script used by the controll of the playermodel. So when you die it 'executes' the karma engine that takes over the model controlled by the player to a physics controlled playermodel. Therefor for example if you look at someone die on 2 computers its seen different as it is a client function and no server function.
Somehow the karma engine doesnt kick in and like i said before that is propably a bug within the scripts. Like Dev said, it could very well be a SDK problem, although i find it strange as it uses the same playerscripts (or at least should be).
Post this bug into the bug forum and see what they can find out about it (they = dev's)
As for the fact about the HOM, I thought you ment that you got killed without any reason. I just didn't read good enough.
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Same here, all the maps are downloaded to the default folder on my machine. Right beside the official maps.
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