Armor combat changes - small but really vital

[krsun]

I'll put it short, so it wont take much of you time to read this:

• A) should be no way for player to instantly get from driver to gunner or commander possitions in the tanks. At least it should take time, at best you should get out and get back to the tank from a different hatch
• B) gunner should have just one extra but really vital key - then a gunner presses space tha tank STOPS and will be stopped until gunner releases the "breaks" no matter what driver thinks, ok. This is only to compensate the A part. So people would still be able to actualy fire no matter who is in driver seat.
• C) tank should get shorter reload times if there is a commander together with gunner. This should promote full tank crew.
• D) who ever was the first player in the tank gets "master control" on who can enter the tank. Such that if you were the first guy in you will see a message sayng "player N wants to get in, Yes/No".
• E) getting in and out from any vehicle should require some time, if its hard to do the planetside animation, just a progress bar will be just fine. This is really stupid then crew just pops up from a vehicle like a teleport.

Dont get me wrong. I think even now the tank are pretty good. But I think this solo "drive and shoot" approach is too arcade and there is no real reason to have more then one guy in a tank, because even with voice its too hard to coordinate driver and gunner and if you need hull mg driver can switch to it instantly, so the 3d guy is just a waste of player at the time.

Thank you.

PS
There are too many tanks with too short time to spawn of new one to be honest. They dont feel like friking tanks, but more like paper models which have no value at all.

 

[Deathsai]

I'll put it short, so it wont take much of you time to read this:A) should be no way for player to instantly get from driver to gunner or commander possitions in the tanks. At least it should take time, at best you should get out and get back to the tank from a different hatch

The Devs already said something like this will be implemented.

B) gunner should have just one extra but really vital key - then a gunner presses space tha tank STOPS and will be stopped until gunner releases the "breaks" no matter what driver thinks, ok. This is only to compensate the A part. So people would still be able to actualy fire no matter who is in driver seat.

I like this idea, although it defeats the purpose of tank coordination. Then again, coordination with idiots who don't listen to their commander isn't fun. For now I just solo tank.

C) tank should get shorter reload times if there is a commander together with gunner. This should promote full tank crew.

Agreed.

D) who ever was the first player in the tank gets "master control" on who can enter the tank. Such that if you were the first guy in you will see a message sayng "player N wants to get in, Yes/No".

Maybe, but it might take too long for crewing up tanks to work.

E) getting in and out from any vehicle should require some time, if its hard to do the planetside animation, just a progress bar will be just fine. This is really stupid then crew just pops up from a vehicle like a teleport.Dont get me wrong. I think even now the tank are pretty good. But I think this solo "drive and shoot" approach is too arcade and there is no real reason to have more then one guy in a tank, because even with voice its too hard to coordinate driver and gunner and if you need hull mg driver can switch to it instantly, so the 3d guy is just a waste of player at the time.

Thank you.

As for E, same thing as A. I agree with this statement-I'd love to coordinate with people, but lag and stupidty of teammates tends to lead me to solo tanking 90% of the time.

 

[Witzig]

A) Yes i agree, but not too long, 1-3 Seconds imho, and no other changing possible during that time (Progress Bar, animations would be nice but i'd rather get other things added into the Game)

B) Well this would be a nice option for public Play, right now i only team with one Gunner/Commander (G

 

[PGD03]

One thing I'm wondering about tanks. Weren't WWII tanks able to turn the hull while standing still??

 

[Witzig]

One thing I'm wondering about tanks. Weren't WWII tanks able to turn the hull while standing still??

Afaik the Tiger had neutral steering, but not every Tank had that afaik, WWIIOL didn't have it, it might be a ***** to implement, i just wonder if the Goliath Tank (Ut2004) had it, i recall something of that being the Case...

 

[prinz eugen]

i agree with the space bar thing..... its too hard for the commander to comm. with the driver.... but why not go a step further.... use the arrows keys to say "foward" "back" "right" "left".... it doesnt work well the way its set-up now--in fact its alot harder than it was in real life!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Witzig]

use the arrows keys to say "foward" "back" "right" "left".... it doesnt work well the way its set-up now--in fact its alot harder than it was in real life!!!!!!!!!!

Erm you do know that the Numpad already has those Keys by default on the Arrow Keys ?

 

[Nimsky]

That, and add tank exit- and enter times. It's extremely frustrating when you're getting the drop on a tank, Faust him but don't kill him yet, only to have the driver pop out and shoot you in the face. Switching times is a big priority in my opinion.

 

[Witzig]

That, and add tank exit- and enter times. It's extremely frustrating when you're getting the drop on a tank, Faust him but don't kill him yet, only to have the driver pop out and shoot you in the face. Switching times is a big priority in my opinion.

Yeah but than we need some more Ways of fighting inf from inside a Tank, Weapon Ports and being able to use Weapons outside a Hatch (Commander only). Otherwise its only halfway realistic.

 

[Hyperion2010]

Fleshing out vehicle interiors and enter/exit/move around/load etc. animations will really help with some of these things. I will say that if a driver didnt stop when a commander told him to IRL he would probably be shot....So if we can use our pistols to shoot the idiot driver in the back of the head when he doesnt stop then . Otherwise I like the commander break idea and I dont see how it could really be abused since stopping a tank would only get them killed to if they were trying to be a smack tard.

 

[Deathsai]

Fleshing out vehicle interiors and enter/exit/move around/load etc. animations will really help with some of these things. I will say that if a driver didnt stop when a commander told him to IRL he would probably be shot....So if we can use our pistols to shoot the idiot driver in the back of the head when he doesnt stop then . Otherwise I like the commander break idea and I dont see how it could really be abused since stopping a tank would only get them killed to if they were trying to be a smack tard.

Oh, I do that now anyways, we just both have to bail and survive the destruction of the tank, caused by the driver's refusal to obey orders.