Great game but I have to say the only thing I don't like is the extra button to zoom. It does not feel natural. Other than that I love the game. Runs like a charm. Nice job TWI. 
Too many steps to zoom.
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Also I'd definately NOT want to zoom all the time! Plenty of times were I want more FoV while in ironsights.
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And the other player on the server?
They use the zoom from the other side of the map, see you coming and shot you down, before you can recognize that there was a enemy somewhere 200m away.
Would be fine if there could be a server option to remove the zoom.
Would be a nice feature for "hardcore" realism server.
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Disabling the zoom is less realistic, not more. It's already not strong enough to come close to approximating proper human visual acuity. 200 meters is not supposed to be that far away.
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The thing is, in real life, I can see someone at 200m. If YOU want it to be more "realistic" YOU can turn it off.
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That`s no option!
If you observe the area right you can see much more than 200m without the zoom, too.
But with that mega zoom you can see every detail. You the a part of a helmet behind a wall, or a rifle behind a building, or what ever.
The mega zoom ins`t ralistic. The first zoom you get when you use the iron sight is good enough, FOR EVERYONE.
When i disable my zoom, i would be very stupid. Because everyone can zoom and do it a lot, so i have no chance to see some hardcore campers (of course they using the zoom / ps: defend a object is ok, but when somebody never moved his body he is a good damn camper and all he want is kills, the teamwork ins`t interessting!) far away, and i will be killed by them.
Lie arround with zoom and wait for enemys is no great game feature, that
If you observe the area right you can see much more than 200m without the zoom, too.
But with that mega zoom you can see every detail. You the a part of a helmet behind a wall, or a rifle behind a building, or what ever.
The mega zoom ins`t ralistic. The first zoom you get when you use the iron sight is good enough, FOR EVERYONE.
When i disable my zoom, i would be very stupid. Because everyone can zoom and do it a lot, so i have no chance to see some hardcore campers (of course they using the zoom / ps: defend a object is ok, but when somebody never moved his body he is a good damn camper and all he want is kills, the teamwork ins`t interessting!) far away, and i will be killed by them.
Lie arround with zoom and wait for enemys is no great game feature, that
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In real life I can see a human size target at 200m even if I am not standing still. Walking does not magically make it hard to see people far away IRL. Right now the zoom can only be used if camping still.
Also, the "Don't like? Don't use." - answers is not a solution to problems.
You can decide to turn the zoom off and then be at a disadvatance against ones using the zoom.
You can decide to not use overpowered weapons and then be at a disadvatance against ones using overpowered weapons. ( Note: This is an example, no need to argue about certain weapons being/not being OP )
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If it's just the mechanic of the zoom that's bothering you, then you can take the other option for reproducing realistic visual perception in the game, and buy a monitor & video card that will support 15000x15000 resolution.
You might find that difficult.
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Actually, without 1:1 scale it is much more than 200 meters. 200 meters are 200 meters only when scale is the same. Without "zoom" it isn't. It's like talking about the "same" distance when one man is looking at the map while the other is able to see it in real life, on field.Kleist said:
Now, distances in game are really small. Spartanovka is, what, 300, maybe 400 meters top? From one end of the map to another? I scored 240 meters kill with bolt-action rifle standing not far from the Axis spawn point and my opponent was running not far from his.
We don't need to make the game unrealistic by throwing out a nice feature. We need bigger maps. It's that simple. That will make complaining about "zoom" (which is not zoom, by the way) irrelevant. The ARMA2 has the same feature and I didn't see people talking about it because maps in ARMA2 are really huge.
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It is a MilSim (military simulator) that has been turned into a game
(and AFAIK was to first game to feature the zoom trigger)
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Do you need to tweak the config files to be able to see that far or is the resolution affecting this? I have settings on 1680 x 1050 / high and have tough time in Spartanovka seeing from the tank hull between gullies and the church to the other tank, which is perhaps 120 meters or so. It seems to be the maximum distance I can see the enemy. That's why those achievements sound absurd unless I do them on accident, I just can't see that far. I think marksman silver (175m) is too far for me to see while zooming.
You can remove this by tweaking the RO2 files. You'll get iron sights without zoom. Look the instructions from the zooming rant posts.Sir.Roderick said:
In the army you shoot targets at the target range at 300m. To begin with, you cannot see that far without zooming in RO2 (or then my settings are bad). Secondly, when aiming at the small target in your sights you don't zoom, but your vision is concentrated on a relatively small area. You don't see a wide area while aiming, this is something the zoom simulates well.
Yes. We need to see further and without the zoom the normal field of vision is not enough.
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Draw distance is relative to your graphics settings, at least for objects, terrain and foliage.
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Yeah, but I thought my settings are at least ok. If people can see 100 meters further than I, then they are not
. 1680 x 1050 isn't that bad isn't it? And my settings are mostly next one to ultra (high or very high, don't remember).
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