Advices for a newbie

[GjRud]

I bought Killing floor when the potato sack came out and I want to become better, So I decided to post here. I hope this is the right section, I thought that my question are too simple to be in the tactics section.

*Few words About me and my KF experience*
I only played at beginner difficulty (except two games at normal) with support specialist, demolition and berserker and, Right now, I am level 2 in each perk, except demolition (level 3), firebug (level 0 or 1) and commando (level 0).

My favorite classes are berserker and demolition, I started playing the first one only 2 days ago to be sure to gain enough money in the first waves to have the possibility to buy demo's weapon earlier but I usually end up using it all game long.

Do you think that is the right moment to switch to normal difficulty or should I train myself a little more?

*Equipment*
As Demo I use both grenade launcher (the cheaper one to deal with smaller specimens and the other one for fleshpounds).
Is this a reasonable combination? If not, what do you think is the right choice?

As Berserker I use a katana to deal with "trash zeds" and a fire axe to kill scrake. I also use a LAR to shoot at crawlers, Sirens and Husks.
I love to use this setting to abuse about my mobility while I am covered by my allies behind me.
What do you think about it?

*Key binding*
My mouse has 2 buttons and a wheel and by default the secondary fire is my mouse wheel (while pressed). I don't usually have any problem with this settings, but while playing Berserker I find the mouse mouse wheel very annoying because sometimes it opens the "equipment menu". Right now I have the secondary fire on the right button and the iron sight on SHIFT, Is this a reasonable setting? I also thought about using the default but without having any function bound (?) at scrolling the wheel, is this possible? which setting is better in your opinion?

I apologize for my English, I hope you have no problem to understand what i meant. Sorry if i bothered you with such stupid questions and with so many information about me. Have a nice day =).

 

[C_Gibby]

Hmm, as for the demo part, it's ok to use the M79 launcher (smaller one) for use against the trash zeds, but I recommend that you only use it when they're in a large group. Don't use it for single zeds, let a teammate do it, or use a backup weapon like a handcannon instead. When I play demo, I use the M32 against Fleshies, or in some cases, regular hand grenades and then I launch an M79 nade to blow up all those nades at once and kill the FP in an instant OR if there's a sharpie or support on the team, I let them handle it and when the FP is actually charging, I put in whatever help I can to kill it before it hurts someone.

You're doing it right for berzerker, I'd say. :IS2:

And I have no comment on your keybinds, it doesn't matter what anyone else says, if you think you're comfortable with it, it's good. They're customisable for a reason!

Since you have a decent grasp of Zerkie and Demo right now, I suggest you go up to normal. It's a pretty big step up to normal in comparision to normal -> hard I'd say, but you'll manage!

Check out the link in my sig for info on other perks put together by me with the help of long-time KF players. :IS2:

 

[d_masik]

I would suggest you levelling demo perk on arcade gas station map on hard or suicidal, killing zeds from the roof, when they group near the door. but you have to have a lvl 3-4 support teammate, keeping the door shut=) when you have 10 waves with a faked players mutator set o 4, you can get 400-450 thousands damage in a game, so you'll level it quite fast to lvl 6. you can wait for almost all zeds to group near the door, and kill them with 1-2 shots, so an M79 and M32 will be enough for a wave.

 

[avp2501]

I would suggest you levelling demo perk on arcade gas station map on hard or suicidal, killing zeds from the roof, when they group near the door. but you have to have a lvl 3-4 support teammate, keeping the door shut=) when you have 10 waves with a faked players mutator set o 4, you can get 400-450 thousands damage in a game, so you'll level it quite fast to lvl 6. you can wait for almost all zeds to group near the door, and kill them with 1-2 shots, so an M79 and M32 will be enough for a wave.

Why even bother having a leveling up system if you are just going to bypass it, KF might as well have an option when you first load it - do you want to start with maxxed out stats or do you want to ACTUALLY play the game how it is intended

 

[C_Gibby]

I would suggest you levelling demo perk on arcade gas station map on hard or suicidal, killing zeds from the roof, when they group near the door. but you have to have a lvl 3-4 support teammate, keeping the door shut=) when you have 10 waves with a faked players mutator set o 4, you can get 400-450 thousands damage in a game, so you'll level it quite fast to lvl 6. you can wait for almost all zeds to group near the door, and kill them with 1-2 shots, so an M79 and M32 will be enough for a wave.

level =/= skill. Hell, this guy is new and only played beginner as he says and he has a far better grasp of KF than many, many others so far.

 

[d_masik]

It's quite good to have levelled perks, isn't it the way to play the game? to level the perks? There are posts on levelling perks with clots-only mutators, and noone said it was boring, when those mutators were whitelisted. Having a lvl 6 perks helps you starting the game, when you have no money, but already a good weapon. there are 7 perks, so there will be always room for playing.

 

[GjRud]

level =/= skill. Hell, this guy is new and only played beginner as he says and he has a far better grasp of KF than many, many others so far.

I read many topics in this forum before I registered =).
I do not want to farm level, if so I'll be registered to wow (lol?). I think it's a good training to learn to maintain your perk, for example I will learn earlier what I should buy first when I can't afford everything (fire axe or armor for example).

I think to be skilled someone should have experience (as knowledge), intelligence, natural abilities and a lot of training on his back, so we have the same opinion =).

 

[Uk1t4k3]

It's quite good to have levelled perks, isn't it the way to play the game? to level the perks? There are posts on levelling perks with clots-only mutators, and noone said it was boring, when those mutators were whitelisted. Having a lvl 6 perks helps you starting the game, when you have no money, but already a good weapon. there are 7 perks, so there will be always room for playing.

Having a level 6 perk is good but you neglect that Killing Floor isn't just about getting the perks to maxed level.

If your target is to hit level 6 for all perks then you will not be able to understand the game mechanics which would greatly help you on your journey to Hell on Earth difficulty.

I have seen many newcomers that grind their perks to level 6 and couldn't even survive suicidal which is something that a level 6 should be able to handle.

 

[[UIT] Akame]

Perks are not the reason to play them game, but I would agree that they have been made too grindy.

@GjRud
Assuming you have played FPS game prior to Killing Floor, you definitely should be playing normal. Though you might die, probably a lot, that's fine. Back in the Mod version of the game my friends and I played upwards of 20 hours a week for almost 5 months and we celebrated when our win/loss exceeded 40%. Playing on harder difficulties makes you a better player and helps you level faster, so it is better all around.

The setup you have with berserker is a very common one. You could also switch the Lever Action Rifle and Fireaxe for a crossbow (way too expensive now) or keep the axe and switch for a M79 ( the cheap grenade launcher).

Whatever works for you is the best setup, really. I still have alt-fire bound to middle mouse, but I use the weapon type keys (typically bound to 1, 2, 3, ect.) and unbind the scroll wheel inventory. There are tons of setups, but if you want to have it work better, I would suggest getting a cheap mouse with side buttons. It's hardly necessary but it is nice to have those extra buttons in most PC games. I got a razer diamondback off of w00t.com refurbished for $20.

Most forum members are very civil outside of Ideas and Suggestions. If you go there, read the stickies before posting. Also, your English is perfectly fine.

 

[starxpilot]

Why even bother having a leveling up system if you are just going to bypass it, KF might as well have an option when you first load it - do you want to start with maxxed out stats or do you want to ACTUALLY play the game how it is intended

level =/= skill. Hell, this guy is new and only played beginner as he says and he has a far better grasp of KF than many, many others so far.

You guys pretty much said it. XD

If you're looking for weapons advice, you're better off seeing what you're good at utilizing than the load-out of others, I prefer the Crossbow with a single HC as a Sharpshooter.

Demoman, usually a Fire Axe and the M32.

 

[Nin]

level =/= skill. Hell, this guy is new and only played beginner as he says and he has a far better grasp of KF than many, many others so far.

Indeed.

I'm suprised he didn't say anything about "I find it best to waste 5 shotgun shells for single Clots". :3

Welcome to the game, son.

I don't have much to offer you, honestly. You seem to not make the same stupid mistakes that every ****ing person I come across makes god damn-

Oh, uhm. Sorry. Yeah.

"Aim for the head" applies for about...Well, every weapon. From what I know, even the Flamethrower counts headshots.

Stay away from servers with a high ping, is all I can add. In case you don't know, sadly, the Internet is not perfect. You will find yourself shooting at things that aren't actually there because of ping (Latency).

The further away you are from a server (where it's hosted/located), the higher the ping will be.

Try to keep that ping under about 100. That's a rule of thumb I have.

Have a nice KF experience.

 

[Deafmute]

and commando (level 0).

Just kidding. You seem to have a pretty good understanding of the game so you should be fine on normal. You'll probably die a lot but that's part of the fun. As for keybinds, go with whatever works for you.

 

[avp2501]

Just have fun and enjoy the game for what it is, when you find it's getting too easy for you go up to the next difficulty, and before you know it you'll be level 6 and feel sad there isn't a lvl 7......

or at least I do ....

I don't need extra stats modifiers, I'd just like add more stars to my logo.

 

[scary ghost]

Given your described play style, you should be fine on Normal. Beginner is for people completely new to FPS.

Demo
M32+M79 works well and you're using the right weapons for each situation. Always aim for the chest of your target specimen. You do more damage than shooting at their feet. Some other weapons, instead of the m79, that also work well with the M32 off perk:

• katana
• lar
• hand cannon
• bullpup

Ask a teammate of the appropriate class to buy those weapons for you if you're short on money, except for the lar. That thing is dirt cheap.

Berserker
The KAL load out is pretty much the "standard". You're doing everything right with it. A few things you should practice:

1. fighting fleshpounds
2. taking out crawlers with melee weapons

Normally, taking on fleshpounds isn't your job but if your support or demo are dead or caught in the middle of a reload, then you should take on the fp. You should at least know how to do it but if you are the one killing a majority of the FPs, the team probably isn't going to make it, sans an all zerker team. You should practice dodging their attacks and timing yours so you don't enrage them.

As for crawlers, being able to take them out with your melee weapon lets you save those bullets for husks and sirens. More importantly, you don't lose your speed bonus. Try to get a good feel for when they jump, and how fast they travel and you can swat them down mid air or dodge them completely and kill them before they can jump again.

One of the great things about zerker is the perk is very versatile. If KAL gets stale for you, then try a different combination of weapons. Zerker can make almost any load out work for him.

Key binding
I use default settings. Just set it to whatever you're comfortable with.

 

[Deafmute]

One of the great things about zerker is the perk is very versatile. If KAL gets stale for you, then try a different combination of weapons. Zerker can make almost any load out work for him.

This. Try getting good with the Hand cannon/deagle. The recoil is significant at first but it's a great gun to have. My favorite load out for Medic (only perk I can think of that's somewhat comparable) is Katana+MP7+deagle, or LAR+deagle+MP7. Obviously you can drop the MP7 if you're Zerker, but the point is to experiment with different weapon combinations and find what suits you best.

 

[Steeps]

I'd personally level sharpshooter first. The reason I say this is because sharpie skills translate to any perk. Regardless of what you're using chances are you're going to need to learn to aim down the sights and make headshots, and being able to land headshots without looking down the sights has saved he so many times. Plus, since you cannot defend yourself well against huge mobs of zeds it teaches you the importance of positioning and not getting surrounded (though I supposed you can learn this from berserker as well )Also, at lv 6 you spawn with an xbow which you can immediately sell for 600 dosh.

For demolitions I like to go M32 + pipes +lar. LAR is to protect myself, M32 is pretty much for softening giant mobs and fleshpounds, and pipes are for fleshpounds and to prevent us from being overrun. Also, the LAW is great on narrow hallway maps like Bioticslab and Bedlam. But I'm a bad demo so feel free to ignore me.

For zerker I mostly go katana + axe + lar, though lately I've been taking just an axe or machete + lar since zerker is getting a little too easy for me. Another loadout worth trying is axe + xbow or katana + xbow. It really makes dealing with husks and sirens (the two biggest threats to a zerker imho) a lot easier.

Try on normal, though, or even hard when you're level 3-4. Once you get a solid understanding on how the game works there really isn't much to it.

 

[E(rik)]

Part of what I love about KF is that there really is no set loadout that by default trumps all like in CoD. What I did at that level was play solo normal mode and just messed around with loadouts for each class.

Just screw around and see what you like (I've always found M32 + Handcannon + pipes good, if your looking for a hint.)

 

[timur]

experiment!
To hell with levelling, have all the fun you can, and experiment! If you mess around to fit what styles fit you, work with the game to learn what tactics work, and master the art of adapting to a situation, you will be better than a lot of those out there, including people with significantly higher perk levels.

 

[Fail-o-wisp]

I bought Killing floor when the potato sack came out and I want to become better, So I decided to post here. I hope this is the right section, I thought that my question are too simple to be in the tactics section.

*Few words About me and my KF experience*
I only played at beginner difficulty (except two games at normal) with support specialist, demolition and berserker and, Right now, I am level 2 in each perk, except demolition (level 3), firebug (level 0 or 1) and commando (level 0).

My favorite classes are berserker and demolition, I started playing the first one only 2 days ago to be sure to gain enough money in the first waves to have the possibility to buy demo's weapon earlier but I usually end up using it all game long.

Do you think that is the right moment to switch to normal difficulty or should I train myself a little more?

*Equipment*
As Demo I use both grenade launcher (the cheaper one to deal with smaller specimens and the other one for fleshpounds).
Is this a reasonable combination? If not, what do you think is the right choice?

As Berserker I use a katana to deal with "trash zeds" and a fire axe to kill scrake. I also use a LAR to shoot at crawlers, Sirens and Husks.
I love to use this setting to abuse about my mobility while I am covered by my allies behind me.
What do you think about it?

*Key binding*
My mouse has 2 buttons and a wheel and by default the secondary fire is my mouse wheel (while pressed). I don't usually have any problem with this settings, but while playing Berserker I find the mouse mouse wheel very annoying because sometimes it opens the "equipment menu". Right now I have the secondary fire on the right button and the iron sight on SHIFT, Is this a reasonable setting? I also thought about using the default but without having any function bound (?) at scrolling the wheel, is this possible? which setting is better in your opinion?

I apologize for my English, I hope you have no problem to understand what i meant. Sorry if i bothered you with such stupid questions and with so many information about me. Have a nice day =).

Well, you sound like you know what you're doing so I don't see why you shouldn't be on Normal. You sound spot-on regarding the Berserker but bring along a sidearm such as a LAR or Bullpup for Demolitions Man(use those to handle lone zombies and use your grenades at groups).

And yeah, you use the same bindings I do.

 

[starxpilot]

Just have fun and enjoy the game for what it is, when you find it's getting too easy for you go up to the next difficulty, and before you know it you'll be level 6 and feel sad there isn't a lvl 7......

or at least I do ....

I don't need extra stats modifiers, I'd just like add more stars to my logo.

I wish for a Level 7 T_T

As for more Stats, something like this?


(That was a fail modding on the WTF Mut XD)