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Forum Opinion on Tank Bailing Poll

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    Votes: 82 52.2%

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#282
Hans Ludwig said:
For someone that uses a million dollar word such as Ad Hominem, you would think that they would know what a comma splice is. lol
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Wow, you really showed him. What a way to completely destroy his argument. Go after his bad grammar. :rolleyes:

Does anybody else find it ironic he's using another ad hominem?

Crap, I'm being a hypocrite. I just called for civility 2 posts back...
 
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#285
Oldih said:
Now presuming the armour system is actually realistic instead of the RO:Ost pongmatch, unless you're driving willingly to some obvious "WHY HELLO THERE THIS IS AN AMBUSH" spot you're quite safe in your tank against AT rifle, and in the hypothetical scenario it's shooting from a direction it can actually penetrate it's quite easy to remedy before the tank is out of action due KIA crew rather than being destroyed. I'd be more worried about some crazy-*** engineer trying to close in even from moderately long distance than AT rifles in general.
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I was thinking of an AT guy with some shambeh bambeh or similiar ( like your engineer ) :IS2:
 
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#286
Major Liability said:
No sense in arguing now. Even I can see the silver lining in the removal of this feature: It will now be that much easier for me to satchel you tankers. Won't have to worry about any dismounted folks with SMGs coming to clear me out, or people instantaneously materializing next to the tank ready for action like they do now.
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That's assuming satchels will be able to destroy tanks in RO2.
 
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#287
Mormegil said:
Wow, you really showed him. What a way to completely destroy his argument. Go after his bad grammar. :rolleyes:

Does anybody else find it ironic he's using another ad hominem?

Crap, I'm being a hypocrite. I just called for civility 2 posts back...
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I know I know it's difficult ... trust me lol.
 
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#288
Yes.


Why? It works. Sure you'll lose a few matches where tankers abandoned a flaming metal coffin, but big deal. Not many people do it, but in DH, when I'm set on fire there's just something about unbuttoning. I can almost feel my smoke filled lungs fill with fresh air. Probably my last gasp as I scurry out of my turret and have my body raked with .30 machine gun fire or an AP acting as the coup de gr
 
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#291
SheepDip said:
Careful Grobut, you mis-spelt "consider" there!
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And now I will no longer listen to his arguments! He's full of nonsense I tell you!

Seriously guys, there have been a number of people in this thread launching completely unnecessary attacks at other members. I'm really surprised the ban-stick hasn't been used at least once so far ...
 
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#294
Grobut said:
Sure thing:

Textbook ad homonem right there, attacking peoples intelligence rather than their arguments.
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You're showing me apples and telling me they are oranges. Neither of those quotes are ad hominem attacks. In the first quote, I am criticizing TW's solution for being lazy and unimaginative. That is in no way an insult to anybody's intelligence or an attempt to undermine an argument's validity in any way. It is attack on the choice of solution.

As for the second quote, you would have a case had I not already addressed, with rational responses, each of the counter arguments that had been presented against my points prior to that. What arguments was I trying to undermine? I had already directly addressed them.

You know Dwin, several people have done exactly that, several people have engaged your arguments with valid counter points, that much is apparent to anyone who scrolls through thease pages, but you have wholesale ignored the brunt of them,
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Excuse me? If anyone is ignoring the brunt of anything, it is you. As I recall, Mormegil came up with a concise list of points against tank bailing. I then came up with a solution to each of those points. Mormegil admitted the solutions would work, but prefered TW's. Reise commented afterwards. I responded to his points. What have I been ignoring? Do I need outline this thread post by post for you in order to realize your accusations are false?

and now, you are throwing a tantrum, calling us all drooling idiots with no capacity for logic or reason, because we don't instantly agree with you.
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You're making arguments based on false premises. This is what I have a problem with. Clearly I don't have a problem with people disagreeing with me, considering I already conceded that others may not believe the benefits of tank bailing are worth the effort, even though I disagree.

You know, i like to think that i am allways right too, that's human nature afterall, but most of us have the good sense of not claiming that everything we say or think is a "FACT!" :rolleyes:
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Try again. Your entire post was false.

Any more baseless ad hominems you want to barrage me with?
 
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#295
Hausfeld said:
.... The #1 best way to blow the turret clean off the Greatest Shoebox of WW2. That's if we get a late 44'-45' expansion that includes said abomination.
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don't worry, you can scurry off to DH2 and the safety of facing shermans if they do appear.

Joking aside, you put the case for bailing from tanks better than just about anyone else with your vivid description.
And certainly with more class.
 
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#297
I'm waiting for water to boil, so I might as well.

1: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=648838#post648838

2: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=648854#post648854

3: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=648855#post648855

4: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=648875#post648875 (I give Reise a proper response in a later post)

5: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=648934#post648934

You might consider this some form of ad hominem, but I was explaining that my reponse to Reise was taken out of context in his reply, and then directing hockeywarrior to my second post in which I detail solutions to his arguments which were previously summarized concisely by Mormegil.

6: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=648940#post648940

I am criticizing TW's solution (not TW themselves).

7: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=649271#post649271

I am pissed at the fact that Reise had clearly acknowledged via responding to my second post that "crawling around an open field with nothing to do but die and be a drain on your team's resources." can be prevented, yet he continues with this line of reasoning (which, prior to my posting, has been repeated too many times already). Not an ad hominem attack.

8: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=649309#post649309

I am defending myself against Reise's (completely uncalled for, and false, as you can see) ad hominem attack.

9: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=649315#post649315

I am elaborating on post 5.

10: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=649316#post649316

11: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=649348#post649348

Perfectly rational argument there.

12: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=649350#post649350

Me conceding part of my argument.

13: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=649366#post649366

14: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=649369#post649369

15: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=649523#post649523

16: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=650359#post650359

I am criticizing hockeywarrior's ad nausuem argument and continued denial of my counter arguments. It's common courtesy to acknowledge other people' posts, even if you don't agree with them.

17: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=650363#post650363

18: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=650508#post650508

A light hearted post (hence :p) not meant to be taken seriously, but nevertheless, in response to people ignoring completely valid posts (or at least not attempting to invalidate them). Again, it's just common courtesy. But at this point the thread had (thankfully) moved onto the issue of effort-vs.-reward for implementing tank bailing.

Then the baseless ad hominems by various members start. You know the rest of the story. There was only one instance in which your accusations have any hint of truth, in which you posted a response to one of my posts. I did not quote you directly, but I fully acknowledged the issue you brought up of effort vs. reward.

So are you still going to continue to try to invalidate my contribution to this thread through blatantly false attacks?

My water is boiling so I'm going to make lunch now. Just in time too.
 
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#298
dogbadger said:
don't worry, you can scurry off to DH2 and the safety of facing shermans if they do appear.

Joking aside, you put the case for bailing from tanks better than just about anyone else with your vivid description.
And certainly with more class.
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I'd like to Hausfield's post that, with the inclusion of Countdown game mode in RO2, being able to bail from your tank will be even more significant. The issue of wasting your team's resources by not respawning in a tank would not apply, and the desperate struggle for survival after jumping out of a smoldering wreckage, enemy infantry advancing all around you...well, in no simpler words, it would be awesome! Conversely, gunning down a hapless tanker, reduced to scurrying and hiding with nothing but a pistol and a couple magazines of ammo, who was just moments ago heartlessly blowing your team away...well, that would be just as awesome.
 
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#299
Hans Ludwig said:
For someone that uses a million dollar word such as Ad Hominem, you would think that they would know what a comma splice is. lol
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What a ridiculous post. First of all, Grobut is a Dane and their punctuation might be different than in english. Second of all, ad-hominem is a pretty common word in multiple languages. Do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars, and do not bail out.



You know, I find it interesting that on your steam profile (http://steamcommunity.com/id/HansLudwig) we can observe the following:

A) VAC Ban(s) on record

and

B) A person posting the following:

SSDivWiking posted on August 30, 2010 @ 9:08pm
Long live the National Socialist movement!

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And yes, I just engaged in ad hominem. Is this really the person that should be the public face of the anti-TW and IS2 movement?
 
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#300
Dr. Pierre Chang said:
What a ridiculous post. First of all, Grobut is a Dane and their punctuation might be different than in english. Second of all, ad-hominem is a pretty common word in multiple languages. Do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars, and do not bail out.
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He is writing in English, so that means he should know the rules that govern the English language. If he doesn't, then he can read the link I supplied to him on comma splicing.

Furthermore, your logic is really strange. But when I move to Russia, learn their language in verbal and written form, I'll tell them you told me I don't need to be bothered with learning their ridiculous grammar rules because you said so.

You know, I find it interesting that on your steam profile ([url]http://steamcommunity.com/id/HansLudwig[/URL]) we can observe the following:

A) VAC Ban(s) on record
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I'm not sure if I should be totally creeped out or in awe that you took the time to Google information about me.

I, however, do have a VAC ban playing DOD:S. I bought a boxed version from EBgames, installed the game just to get VAC banned a few minutes into my game. lol But I contacted the Washington BBB.org and informed them of what happened. They got into contact with Valve and Valve gave me the special EP2 thingy that came with DOD:S, CSS, and TF2. I installed that on to my new Steam account, which I was told that it would be better that I do that from Valve after they called.

B) A person posting the following:

Quote:
SSDivWiking posted on August 30, 2010 @ 9:08pm
Long live the National Socialist movement!​
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These guys engage in the same behavior as you: Internet stalking. You have on more than one occasion attempted to defame me on the TWI forums by saying I belong to other forums, which I have told you I do not belong to. I even listed all the forums I do belong to, but the thread was locked because TWI saw what you were trying to do. I thought you learned your lesson. But you decided to defame me some more by making up lies or giving readers the impression I'm a Skinhead/NS type individual.

I, however, don't think they would want me since I'm half Hispanic and Irish with a Hispanic girlfriend. Now for the coup de gr​
 
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