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"What we are up to" - Feb 3rd edition
- Thread starter Yoshiro
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looking forward to the upcoming beta! sounds very nice in theory, we shall see how it plays... i sure hope this will bring some players back.
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The video you posted demonstrates lag. If you add lag compensation to that, he'd have made it behind the corner, started reloading and looked the other way and THEN died to bullets from that MG. Of course there's a slight delay because data has to move over the internet. You have to compensate for that delay when firing, yes. Adding lag compensation just trades one problem for another.
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Like what? They're shouting "MG"? Even when he fires his pistol?
Characters react to the Class they spot, not the weapon carried.
So when you spawn as MG-Class the enemy will always yell "MG spotted!" even when you're carrying a Pistol/Grenade/Rifle/etc...
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By all means.
I know RO 1 wasn't realistic. You sure like to mention that a lot.
But the things he posted were funny and correct ^^
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You can reload while crawling. And I mean, you can insert a clip into a bolt-action rifle while moving around on your belly. Damn snakes.
Magic nanobots fix all the damage you get unless it's lethal. You're only hurt for around 4-5 seconds.
Tanks have set amount of hitpoints and can be invincible if you angle them correctly. Even bounces take a small amount of hitpoints away and that's why you can explode from shell that bounced.
The usual list of how people are slow, drunk and can't see.
Engagement ranges for all weapons are 100-200 meters too short due to inability to see further/fire your gun accurately past the 50 meter point.
I won't continue because it serves no purpose, but when people cry "ro2 is unrealistic because of x and y" they always forget that z and j were present in OST and somehow it was more realistic?
Neither at the moment is an accurate representation of actual combat. HoS has more potential to be one one day, but not with the implementation of classic mode.
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How about slowing down playermovement alltogether? The current speeds are too high.
I'm not even talking about stairs and slopes.
I'm not even talking about stairs and slopes.
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How are they too high when anyone can run that fast easily? Only thing that's too fast is reload when leveled up enough and lining (not bringing! that is fast in real life) up the sights for an accurate shot. You can snap-shoot as fast as in RO2 in real life, but you can't take an accurate shot to a distance. This must be fixed.
Edit: agreed about slopes and stairs, add rubble to that list also.
Edit2: While removing human abilities and having a 'nerfed' avatar can be used to simulate combat in a flawed environment, how about we don't 'nerf' or gimp remove anything actual human is capable of, but instead fix the environment? Move spawns further away, get bigger maps and open some room to maneuver/have firefights over. Current maps are all smaller than effective range of a rifle and THAT is what's wrong. We don't need to have unrealistically short engagement ranges due to no zoom and huge sway when it all can be fixed by increasing map size and making team start further away from each other.
No need for psedo-realism when we can have actual, proper realism.
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Might as well remove respawning and go for a more CS type of game. As people dont respawn IRL and u will get better team play as people will start off with their squads.
In addition it might be a good idea to have different faces on the players so you can know who is who.
In addition it might be a good idea to have different faces on the players so you can know who is who.
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Let me add to that list
Your pouches go into another dimension, you can carry as much as you wish. *Carries 10 grenades* no slower movement yay.
I am john Rambo, I can shoot more accurate from the hip with an mg than with an smg. "Problem Hollywood?"
I am not 'hero' enough to put ammo in all of my mags.
I use my years in battle to polish my gun so much it's more shiny than the standard issue weaponry.
Nano vision activate: "Our recon plane will find them wherever they hide!!" *Enemy position transmitted directly into retina.*
Sidearm damage make perfect sense, higher caliber = less damage.
More common with k98k in russian team than MN.
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I'm no expert on netcode, but having read threads where people who know about it debate the RO way versus other games with lag compensation and/or client-side hit detection, there are very clearly pros and cons to the different ways. I'm not decided on which way is better, I'm really not. I don't like any of the cons, but that's life on the internet. They decided with RO1 what their preferred method is, and that hasn't changed. TWI's philosophy seems to be to make latency as consistent as possible, without adding compensation or client-side detection because they don't like the drawbacks of those methods. Right now RO2 has bad climbing pings compared to RO1, but if they get the networking sorted out the overall shooting will be similar to RO1 and players can then debate about networking on equal footing; so long as players realize that TWI has had this debate and deemed what they think is best already. As it is now the networking model has egg on its face so it can't win with some people. But it was good with RO1 (unless for whatever reason you prefer the cons of other methods), and hopefully will be ironed out to be as good with RO2.
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Like what? They're shouting "MG"? Even when he fires his pistol?
But... he's still got an MG in most of those cases. And he may set it up seconds after firing the pistol...or hell, even running around with it on his hip. That's still useful information to know that an MG class is in the vicinity.
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But this has been shown to be a potentially very invalid point. As it is now the playerbase is rather fragile and I for one do not really have much choice of servers and this is irrespective of mode. I'll play relaxed or hardcore or custom so long as it's all or mostly players and the ping is acceptable. That leaves me 1 or 2 servers to choose from at any given time. But Classic is going to be hugely different so now the mode will matter a little. The largest proportion of new players this change will bring will be those preferring the Classic mode. High demand for one mode does not really help those who want the others. I'm not saying that this is bad for the game at large. If overall numbers come up and stay up, that's good for the game. But the notion that "it won't affect you" is so wrong and interested it sounds like a campaign stump speech talking point. For example, I really really like Countdown. But it never gets run on servers I can play on at the times I play on. So I regrettably can't play Countdown. This is a combination of both player and server choice, that's quite true. But to say I actually have the choice or that servers choosing not to run Countdown didn't affect me would be totally false. So just turn the tables in your imagination and think about the scenario if it turned out the other way. That with changes to the game's realism mode, it turned out that actually RO Classic never got run on the servers you can get a good connection to and have actual good number of players. Would it be correct or fair to say that the existence of the Realism mode competing with the Classic mode "won't affect you?" Not at all.
If the 1 or 2 servers that someone can play on because of population or latency decide to convert to the new classic mode, that person is left without a choice. If they like the new mode, it's great for them. If they don't, it very much will affect their experience of the game. It might be that people who don't like the new mode will be able to trickle down to adventitious servers. Or there won't be any of those that work well for the player. It remains to be seen. But as has pointed out, that theory didn't work well with Countdown and it didn't work well with relaxed realism.
I'm not judging the Classic mode yet, I'm just saying it's possible I'll have little choice about whether it's running on the 1 or 2 servers I can play on. I will say, however, that I prefer RO2 to RO1 so far. I'm looking forward to the refinements to existing realism elements that have been hinted at so far. It'll be unfortunate if those hardly get seen because of what servers are running it however..
My question is there is Realism, Relaxed, and Custom. There will be Realism, Relaxed, Classic. Will Custom truly allow any combination of variables from all three modes? That would be great, in my opinion. Ultimately if that would be the case I think the most popular server choice would end up being some form of Custom mode rather than Classic.
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i havent been playing for awhile, but if this classic mode makes the game slower and more tactical I will be back for sure
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