Immersion Overhaul Mutator Information

[Panzer Jager '43]

The scoped version have the same recoil like the non scoped G-41. But maybe it seems more when you looks through the scope.

Yes, basically the zoom makes it 'feel' like there is more recoil.

The G41 Scope actually has slightly less recoil due to the weight of the scope (all scope rifles do.)

 

[Proud_God]

The G41 Scope actually has slightly less recoil due to the weight of the scope (all scope rifles do.)

Interesting. By your design or TWI's?

 

[Panzer Jager '43]

Interesting. By your design or TWI's?

I mean in the Realism mod, so yes by me. TWI just has them the same.

I also made them have a slightly slower zoom-in, and they are slightly more accurate than regular bolt-actions due to their selection process.
The semi-auto scopes keep the recoil and aim-time differences, but don't get an accuracy bonus compared to their regular counter-parts.

 

[dibbler67]

Well, it has taken one hell of a 48 hour crash course in Maya, but I'm pleased to say that I have successfully rigged up Kaminski's Waffen SS smock and created versions of the SS field gear without epaulets. I'm just waiting on Kaminski to give me a nice normal map for it and for a few texture variations from Moskeeto.

Expect this in soon!

 

[marcinz]

Is it possible to add optional ARMA-like zoom functionality (click RMB=iron sights, hold RMB=zoom + ability to zoom while moving/sprinting) to the mod?

 

[MeFirst]

What I would like to see is less zoom, not more of it.

 

[Andreson]

Is it possible to add optional ARMA-like zoom functionality (click RMB=iron sights, hold RMB=zoom + ability to zoom while moving/sprinting) to the mod?

We have it already in Ro2 I think. There's also an option to slightly zoom-in while sprinting in the settings.

 

[marcinz]

You can't zoom while moving in RO2, option in the settings enables/disables shift zoom

 

[JosephBaier]

What I would like to see is less zoom, not more of it.

^

 

[Kleist]

Maybe we have some success with this event here:


http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dibblersmod#announcements/detail/1352501745824100094


I really would like to see a "full" (min. 20 player) server with the mutator.

 

[Kenobi]

I will be there, although the 5PM start is a really poor choice. Pushing it back by an hour or two would be better.

 

[LugNut]

As much as I like the zoom system in ARMA, the map sizes and view distances are 5X what we have in RO2 and you couldn't function without zoom. Try playing without it with the mutator, it's not as necessary.

 

[zGuba]

Don

 

[Panzer Jager '43]

Hey folks, here is a brief changelog for the update to BetterRealism mod that will be included in a new release of Overhaul Mutator:

-Completely re-worked role selections to offer much greater realism.
This includes disabling the MkB42 and AVT40 (for now, until we see more late-war maps where they may be available in them.)
Additionally, other weapons are now available to certain classes in Classic game mode. An example would be that there are now 2 versions of the Bolt-Action Scoped Rifles available to Marksman (Kar98 4x and 6x, MN9130 3.5x and 4x.)

-Weapons now have proper ammunition reserves and a better weight system. This does not affect *too* many weapons but there were a few in particular that needed to be addressed.

-All weapons now have much more IronSight zoom; this does NOT affect the world. There is still no "world" zoom. The bug regarding accuracy with this zoom has been fixed.

-Sniper Rifles no longer have "world" zoom, which is actually really awesome.

-Certain weapons now have better stats. Example: PPS42 without Stock (Commander weapon) has more kick but is slightly faster to bring up into Ironsights. It also does not have different recoil between Ironsights and Hip.

-All PPSh41 now have a better Semi-Auto animation. Both the Stick mag and Drum versions offer Semi-Auto.

I think you folks will enjoy the update a lot but I do expect some rage over this or that (namely the removal of MkB from Classic and the inclusion of *another* weapon.) If you have questions or concerns regarding Realism please bring them up with me and I just may re-asses the subject.


Here is the full list of classes & their weapons, for those interested.

Spoiler!

Allies Rifleman
MN9130 [No Bayonet, Rusted]

Axis Rifleman
Kar98K [No Bayonet, Rusted]


Allies Elite Rifleman //Elite Rifleman now also offers better Bolt-Action
SVT40 [No Bayonet, Rusted]
MN9130 [Bayonet, Standard]

Axis Elite Rifleman //Elite Rifleman now also offers better Bolt-Action
G41w [No Bayonet, Rusted]
Kar98K [Bayonet, Hoodless, Rusted]


Allies Assault
PPSh41 [Stick, Rusted]
PPS42 [Stock, Rusted]

Axis Assault
MP40 [Rusted]


Allies Elite Assault //Elite Assault now offers enemy SMG
PPSh41 [Drum, Rusted]
PPS42 [Stock, Rusted]
MP40 [Rusted]

Axis Elite Assault //Elite Assault now offers enemy SMG
MP40 [Rusted]
PPSh41 [Drum, Rusted]


Allies Squad Leader //Squad Leaders now offer Bolt and SMG
MN9130 [No Bayonet, Rusted]
PPSh41 [Stick, Rusted]
M1895 [Rusted]
TT33 [Rusted]

Axis Squad Leader //Squad Leaders now offer Bolt and SMG
Kar98k [No Bayonet, Rusted]
MP40 [Rusted]
P38 [Rusted]
C96 [Rusted]


Allies Machine Gunner
DP28 [Rusted]
M1895 [Rusted]
TT33 [Rusted]

Axis Machine Gunner //German MG now has choice between two MG34
MG34 [Drum, Rusted]
MG34 [Belt100, Rusted]
P38 [Rusted]


Allies AntiTank Soldier
PTRS41 [Rusted]
M1895 [Rusted]
TT33 [Rusted]

Axis AntiTank Soldier
PTRS41 [Rusted]
P38 [Rusted]


Allies Engineer //Engineer now offer Bolt and SMG
PPSh41 [Drum, Rusted]
MN9130 [No Bayonet, Rusted]

Axis Engineer //Engineer now offer Bolt and SMG
MP40 [Rusted]
Kar98k [No Bayonet, Rusted]


Allies Marksman //Marksman now have choice between two Bolt Scopes
MN9130 [3.5x, Standard]
MN9130 [4x, Standard]
SVT40 [3.5x, Standard]

Axis Marksman //Marksman now have choice between two Bolt Scopes
Kar98k [4x, Standard]
Kar98k [6x, Standard]
G41w [1.5x, Standard]


Allies Commander //Commander gets shiny guns and can choose a special Sidearm
PPSh41 [Drum, Standard]
PPS42 [No Stock, Standard]
SVT40 [No Bayonet, Standard]
M1895 [Silencer, New]
TT33 [New]

Axis Commander //Commander gets shiny guns and can choose a special Sidearm
MP40 [Standard]
G41w [No Bayonet, Standard]
PPSh41 [Drum, Rusted]
P38 [New]
C96 [Full Auto, New]

 

[Kleist]

Nice Job PanzerJager. Sounds great. The changelog is nearly 1:1 what I have written on my wishlist (since classic was released). Nice you have found a way to bring it into the game

 

[LugNut]

Thanks!

What is the "better" version of bolts for Elite Rifleman? Greater accuracy?

 

[Panzer Jager '43]

Thanks!

What is the "better" version of bolts for Elite Rifleman? Greater accuracy?

Just bayonet and visual enhancements. For MN9130 it has bayonet and is "Standard Condition", for Kar98k it has bayonet and the sight hood removed (but is rusted condition.)

If TWI ever makes bayonets actually removable then Elite Rifleman's bolts will just have better condition / sight hood removed.

 

[doomis]

Wait I lost you there... Can someone explain the ironsight zoom vs world zoom thing?

 

[The Beast (nl)]

I am already glad that the zoom is gone....


This mod is amazing but not finished yet.

I couldnt play as tanker I get a freeze. What the reason is i really don`t know.

I will be there maybe. I am a reserve...

 

[Avtomat]

Its great to see you've impoved the loadouts PanzerJager! Though I have some suggestions to further improve their realism.

Spoiler!

Allies Rifleman
MN9130 [No Bayonet, Rusted] Well, since bayonets were standard issue equipment for both sides in the war, even a rifleman should have an ability to select a bayonet for his rifle.

Axis Rifleman
Kar98K [No Bayonet, Rusted] *same as above*


Allies Elite Rifleman //Elite Rifleman now also offers better Bolt-Action
SVT40 [No Bayonet, Rusted] I think the same should happen with the "elite" riflemen, they had their bayonets too.
MN9130 [Bayonet, Standard]

Axis Elite Rifleman //Elite Rifleman now also offers better Bolt-Action
G41w [No Bayonet, Rusted] same here
Kar98K [Bayonet, Hoodless, Rusted]


Allies Assault
PPSh41 [Stick, Rusted] Hmm... Since stick magazines on the PPSh were rather rare up until the very late stages of WW2, I think the assault class should have the drum magazine, with the sapper getting the stick magazine, or actually, both of them getting a drum by default, and getting the choice between the stick and drum on late war maps. (as far as I can remember, the stick mag wasn't even in Stalingrad)

PPS42 [Stock, Rusted]

Axis Assault
MP40 [Rusted]


Allies Elite Assault //Elite Assault now offers enemy SMG
PPSh41 [Drum, Rusted]
PPS42 [Stock, Rusted]
MP40 [Rusted]

Axis Elite Assault //Elite Assault now offers enemy SMG
MP40 [Rusted]
PPSh41 [Drum, Rusted] <--- This is a very good idea.


Allies Squad Leader //Squad Leaders now offer Bolt and SMG
MN9130 [No Bayonet, Rusted] Well, a bayonet here could be cool, but I could live without it.
PPSh41 [Stick, Rusted] The SL should get drums too
M1895 [Rusted]
TT33 [Rusted]

Axis Squad Leader //Squad Leaders now offer Bolt and SMG
Kar98k [No Bayonet, Rusted] Same as above
MP40 [Rusted]
P38 [Rusted]
C96 [Rusted]


Allies Machine Gunner
DP28 [Rusted]
M1895 [Rusted]
TT33 [Rusted]

Axis Machine Gunner //German MG now has choice between two MG34
MG34 [Drum, Rusted]
MG34 [Belt100, Rusted] oh lawd yessss
P38 [Rusted]


Allies AntiTank Soldier
PTRS41 [Rusted]
M1895 [Rusted]
TT33 [Rusted]

Axis AntiTank Soldier
PTRS41 [Rusted]
P38 [Rusted]


Allies Engineer //Engineer now offer Bolt and SMG
PPSh41 [Drum, Rusted] as said above, maybe stick mag?
MN9130 [No Bayonet, Rusted] maybe bayo

Axis Engineer //Engineer now offer Bolt and SMG
MP40 [Rusted]
Kar98k [No Bayonet, Rusted] maybe bayo


Allies Marksman //Marksman now have choice between two Bolt Scopes
MN9130 [3.5x, Standard]
MN9130 [4x, Standard] Question: is it the PE or the PEM scope? (probably the PE, because the mosin model with the PEM has the bayo attached. In Stalingrad the most common scope was the PEM, so if its possible to have the bayonet detached from the model, it would be more realistic to have the PEM)
SVT40 [3.5x, Standard]

Axis Marksman //Marksman now have choice between two Bolt Scopes
Kar98k [4x, Standard]
Kar98k [6x, Standard] Cool, but TWI was lazy to make the actual 6x ZF42 scope... more on this in this thread http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=70263[url]http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=70263[/URL]
G41w [1.5x, Standard] Not sure about this... The G41 was an incredibly rare weapon by itself, and with a Zf41 attached, it was basicly impossible to find on the field.

Allies Commander //Commander gets shiny guns and can choose a special Sidearm
PPSh41 [Drum, Standard]
PPS42 [No Stock, Standard]
SVT40 [No Bayonet, Standard]
M1895 [Silencer, New] Weeeeeeellll...... Supressors on the Nagant pistol were only used by NKVD spies and such, not by combat units, so I think a shiny new Nagant would do just fine.
TT33 [New]

Axis Commander //Commander gets shiny guns and can choose a special Sidearm
MP40 [Standard]
G41w [No Bayonet, Standard]
PPSh41 [Drum, Rusted]
P38 [New]
C96 [Full Auto, New]