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Wheres our promised mac red orchestra 2?!?!?!?!?

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  • #16
    Originally posted by Chopy View Post
    Regular Use
    Linux>Mac/Windows
    Gaming
    Windows>Mac/Linux
    Compatibility
    Windows>Linux/Mac
    Development use (music,3d,video etc.)
    Windows>Mac>Linux
    Stability
    Linux>Windows/Mac
    Price
    Linux>Windows>Mac

    Again i see no reason for Mac.
    Haha thanks for saying it! Personally I would love it if they supported every platform. Smaller game studios are known to do this and I doubt it'd be too much of a big deal, although I don't know how things are with UE3.

    At least they could try to make in pain free to run through wine.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by isaacw81 View Post
      Seriously guys, we're counting on YOU to hurry up with the mac version, your sales will go up very far, there are many of us waiting patiently. If you "want to make the customers happy" do it now.
      Don't worry, I'm sure there'll be an app for dealing with your rage.
      In-game name: burt

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      • #18
        I hate to make this into a Mac bashing thread, but I never had a positive experience with Macs.... ever.

        Used them in High School and they were limited and a bit too basic for my liking (power mac)

        Then when I got out of college and got into Photography, the studio used Mac G4's.... which again were pretty basic, limiting in what you can do.... and when using Photoshop for retouching and photo packages, every 30 minutes or so the system froze with no warning or explanation and no way to get out of it except to restart the whole system, losing everything I was working on.

        There was no error report, not warning, nothing.... I couldn't even determine what caused the problem, so it just kept happening and all you could do was to reset the damn thing and hope it didn't happen again.

        Then they took it to a Mac repair place, said they needed more ram and a better video card.... paid twice as much for all of that then they would have with a PC and it still didn't fix the damn problem.... eventually I just moved over to the old PC they had sitting in the corner they used for scanning and updating the web site. It didn't have nearly as much RAM or CPU power due to being pretty old, but it got the job done and never crashed.

        And of course my wife got an Ipod a few years back.... after about 4 months the entire thing just froze up and there was no way to turn it off or fix it except to let the battery drain..... but once it charged and turned on again, you'd just get the same frozen screen..... ship it to Apple to let them take a look at it, which they just ended up sending her a new one, which only ended up doing the same thing a few months later..... she went through 4 replacement Ipods before she just said screw it and go a Creative ZEN.

        Maybe they didn't like her music.

        I've got plenty more stories of Macs being unreliable & overpriced piles of garbage marketed for eliteest yuppies in their black beret, thick 60's style glasses sipping their lat
        Last edited by Cpt-Praxius; 07-18-2012, 08:31 AM.

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        • #19
          [quote=cpt-praxius;1106614]i hate to make this into a mac bashing thread, but i never had a positive experience with macs.... Ever.

          Used them in high school and they were limited and a bit too basic for my liking (power mac)

          then when i got out of college and got into photography, the studio used mac g4's.... Which again were pretty basic, limiting in what you can do.... And when using photoshop for retouching and photo packages, every 30 minutes or so the system froze with no warning or explanation and no way to get out of it except to restart the whole system, losing everything i was working on.

          There was no error report, not warning, nothing.... I couldn't even determine what caused the problem, so it just kept happening and all you could do was to reset the damn thing and hope it didn't happen again.

          Then they took it to a mac repair place, said they needed more ram and a better video card.... Paid twice as much for all of that then they would have with a pc and it still didn't fix the damn problem.... Eventually i just moved over to the old pc they had sitting in the corner they used for scanning and updating the web site. It didn't have nearly as much ram or cpu power due to being pretty old, but it got the job done and never crashed.

          And of course my wife got an ipod a few years back.... After about 4 months the entire thing just froze up and there was no way to turn it off or fix it except to let the battery drain..... But once it charged and turned on again, you'd just get the same frozen screen..... Ship it to apple to let them take a look at it, which they just ended up sending her a new one, which only ended up doing the same thing a few months later..... She went through 4 replacement ipods before she just said screw it and go a creative zen.

          Maybe they didn't like her music.

          I've got plenty more stories of macs being unreliable & overpriced piles of garbage marketed for eliteest yuppies in their black beret, thick 60's style glasses sipping their lat
          In-game name: burt

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          • #20
            I really like open source software, I really do (No, I'm not cheap, I donate to Linux Mint every month) but I'm also practical and some games just don't run in WINE. So I have a partition with Windows XP just for games.

            And regarding macs: I used my friends mac when I was visiting him. I was not impressed. :-)
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            • #21
              It would be cool to see RO2 for mac as I don't think MAC is saturated with first person shooters but I might be wrong.

              As a computer tech, I also dislike mac.

              The highpoint is the design. They look great.
              Also the packaging... best packaging ever.
              In game ID: CoolIT

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              • #22
                Our build or UE 3 does not support Mac clients and it is a non trivial thing to change the engine build to one that does. It is something we are interested in, but currently don't see the demand for.

                As far as upgrading our engine, it remains something we continue to evaluate, but it would roughly mean a downtime of 3 to 6 months with no bug fixes, no content additions or anything of the sort as we got the game online on a new version of the engine and fixed it. They engine has changed massively over the years and upgrading will break many parts of it that will need to be hunted down and fixed. Month to month changes are usually fairly trivial with the engine, but they add up and entire features are ripped out and replaced. For example the UI system, foliage system, terrain system and more that we use are now obsolete in the latest builds of the engine. We would either need to bring the old systems forward, or start from scratch with the new systems (both of these options are not "easy"). As I said, non trivial. But it remains something we continue to evaluate as we move forward.
                Pretty, what do we blow up first? - Myn Donos

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                • #23
                  Are you sure it's not as easy as writing "Mac Version" on the box?
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                  • #24
                    What about linux?

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                    • #25
                      Damn Lord. You've beat me to it. :-)

                      In the matter of an engine update for windows and/or engine port for mac/Linux. I think the best way would be a beta test for all the guys who already bought RO2. So there can be testing in a closed environment.
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                      • #26
                        I'd much appreciate a port to linux, but have never bothered stating this as I deemed it not a viable option to request.

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                        • #27
                          From what i've read about the latest UE3 builds, its quite promising. I think the best way could be a few content updates to satisfy players, then start working on the upgrade while organizing some mapping contest meanwhile. So people will still get new maps during that hard work.

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                          • #28
                            a Mac / Linux client would gain much support in the gaming community. More than that of what you would think. The average Mac and Linux user pays more for their products than the average windows users. There is test data with hundreds of thousands of purchases which show that Linux users pay more for Linux supported apps than mac and windows users, windows user paying the least.

                            As for my next statement I don't have a source on hand, but I read a few months back that Windows users are more likely to pirate their software than mac and Linux users combined. I'm sure this is believable for many.

                            In short, I'm just listing reasons to support these OS's but most indie games that do don't do so regretfully. Many basic games that are supported on these OS's are very popular amongst their communities, especially the Linux communities, and purchased solely because they support the system. Many non gamers do it to support growth on Linux. It's a market with great potential.

                            And not to be repetitive here's a post from a valve dev blog re: Linux that was posted earlier.

                            http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/

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                            • #29
                              Seeing that the OP seems to have had his question answered...

                              [QUOTE=Cpt-Praxius;1106614]
                              I've got plenty more stories of Macs being unreliable & overpriced piles of garbage marketed for eliteest yuppies in their black beret, thick 60's style glasses sipping their lat

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