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  • #31
    hmm, sounds good but since RO2 must have steam running & punkbuster and the steam overlay arent really friendly, pb kicks for that so i hope they could do something about that, since i want to have my steam overlay on while gaming to chat with friends and stuff
    Add me on steam: teemu92

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    • #32
      Ramm said something like steam overlay will only be restricted in the most "harsh" level of PB, which would be 3. He said that he personally thinks that would never be used for public servers.

      But even for competitive gaming... I personally had great use of steam while playing competitive matches as I really needed to be able to communicate with the opponent in matters related to the match =).
      Last edited by Snuffeldjuret; 06-20-2011, 08:33 AM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by blkmgc View Post
        Talk about overkill.
        And have as much cheaters as MW2?
        I would choose overkill any day
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        • #34
          this is great news ... VAC with its lack of a communtiy ban list sucks and .. punkbuster at default setting suck .. last i seen anyway .. that whole kick for 2 min.s and no bann for a detected cheat was very weak. but with the streaming servers for communtiy ban list and VAC for when the PB contrat runs out .. this could really extend the life of the game.

          always good to start the day off with good news

          will punkbuster and vac both be running at the sametime, on the same server ??
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          • #35
            Originally posted by u-s-e-r View Post
            Indeed, PB is known for its "trigger-happiness", e.g. not allowing steam overlay ui and blaming Valve for updating its software
            I use the steam overlay to take screenshots in CoD4, Bad Company 2 and Medal of Honor and I have not been kicked for using it. I do believe some older games like Battlefield 2 still gets kicked for using it though.

            This is one reason why PB is picky over what it allows to hook into a game.

            Some new cheats are now actually hacking FRAPS in order to cheat in the game. We're trying to work with the FRAPS people right now to get this addressed. The current situation is that PB kicks for any version of FRAPS that is not the latest version or any version that has the known cheat hooks. Both Xfire and FRAPS are being used by cheat authors in attempts to hide the cheat without hacking the game or PB directly. The kicks for old versions are restriction kicks rather than cheat violations - players who get the restriction kicks should not be in danger of receiving any kind of ban. A violation kick indicates that PB found a specific cheat hook.
            Originally posted by u-s-e-r View Post
            I'm really starting to get worried about false positives now
            There is the occasional false positive but anti-virus software is no different and that's basically what anti-cheat software is. When they do occur on a massive scale they are reversed fairly quickly.

            Originally posted by Fedorov View Post
            Will this version allow macros in RO2?

            I use macros in Ostfront to change mouse sensitivity, as I don't have a gaming mouse that can do that directly to the hardware with its own button, and it would suck to get banned for that reason.
            In BF2 and perhaps ofter games now PB has an option to kick for them but it's not enabled by default.

            the setting pb_sv_restrictions will now accept a value of 2 for cases where a server admin wants PunkBuster to be more restrictive with regard to certain macro or hot key type programs; pb_sv_restrictions will continue to default to the value of 1
            I use X-Mouse Button Control myself for Bad Company 2 and MoH because I can't bind the mouse wheel to two different functions using the game.

            I can understand why some people don't like PB but at least we have a choice. If you want to play Battlefield on a ranked server you're forced to use PB. In MW2, Black Ops and Homefront you're forced to use VAC. Both have their flaws and limitations. VAC tends to be favored by pubbers more because it's less problematic, PB tends to be favored for competition because of the additional functionality such as streaming, pb screenshots, MD5 tool scans etc.

            This short MP3 from the Rush Zone conversation with Tripwire explains how AC will work.

            http://www.mediafire.com/?q35ghcemgep2u9x

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            • #36
              Can't wait to get kicked out of the game AND VAC banned for opening the Steam overlay.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Actin View Post
                And have as much cheaters as MW2?
                I would choose overkill any day
                Until, boom, you get banned and need to buy the game again, get a new steam account and only for one game when your current steam account has dozens of them. Yay, that must be fun
                Last edited by u-s-e-r; 06-20-2011, 09:24 AM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by u-s-e-r View Post
                  Until, boom, you get banned and need to buy the game again, get a new steam account and only for one game when your current steam account has dozens of them. Yay, that must be fun
                  That's what I'm afraid of the most.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by u-s-e-r View Post
                    Until, boom, you get banned and need to buy the game again, get a new steam account and only for one game when your current steam account has dozens of them. Yay, that must be fun
                    last time this happen was along time ago and vac gave out free copys of left 4 dead

                    punkbuster not so much .. but ive never heard of false postives being too big a problem .. they happen but not often

                    i wouldnt buy a new game i would wait fro the false postive to be reversed
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                    • #40
                      will vac and PB both be running at the same time on the same server ??
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by u-s-e-r View Post
                        Until, boom, you get banned and need to buy the game again, get a new steam account and only for one game when your current steam account has dozens of them. Yay, that must be fun
                        But many cheaters don't care, they just want to cheat.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Actin View Post
                          And have as much cheaters as MW2?
                          I would choose overkill any day

                          +1

                          so many games have been ruined by underkill in the anticheat
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                          • #43
                            As has been pointed out we take the cheating threat very seriously, and have seen several games tank in the past year not because they were bad games (some were very enjoyable), but because their multiplayer environment was destroyed within weeks by cheaters.

                            We have listened to our community and others about what they want from an anti cheat environment and with that in mind we designed our current plan.

                            *VAC will be available for all servers and turned on by default.

                            We know some have had (and some still do have) problems with Punk Buster and with that in mind we are working with Even Balance to address that situation. Our current plan has PB implemented in three stages.

                            *Stage 0: Off
                            *Stage 1: Access to the server screenshot functionality and streaming bans
                            *Stage 2: Standard PB protection that WILL NOT interfere with Steam (and the overlay)
                            *Stage 3: Full PB that WILL (most likely) kick for the steam overlay

                            Server admins can work with these to decide what anti cheat environment works best for their server. And players will be able to filter for those settings as well to find servers that fit their preferences.

                            But remember, the greatest tool against cheaters is an active community both reporting cheaters (to Steam with the built in report function, and PB Bans) as well as forwarding any cheats they can get their hands on to any of the parties involved (ourselves which is preferable as we can get it to all the others quickly, EvenBalance and the VAC Team).
                            Pretty, what do we blow up first? - Myn Donos

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                            • #44
                              Any word on the .ini scripts? like binding a key to change sensitivity like in RO:Ostfront? Will that be PB allowed?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Yoshiro View Post
                                As has been pointed out we take the cheating threat very seriously, and have seen several games tank in the past year not because they were bad games (some were very enjoyable), but because their multiplayer environment was destroyed within weeks by cheaters.

                                We have listened to our community and others about what they want from an anti cheat environment and with that in mind we designed our current plan.

                                *VAC will be available for all servers and turned on by default.

                                We know some have had (and some still do have) problems with Punk Buster and with that in mind we are working with Even Balance to address that situation. Our current plan has PB implemented in three stages.

                                *Stage 0: Off
                                *Stage 1: Access to the server screenshot functionality and streaming bans
                                *Stage 2: Standard PB protection that WILL NOT interfere with Steam (and the overlay)
                                *Stage 3: Full PB that WILL (most likely) kick for the steam overlay

                                Server admins can work with these to decide what anti cheat environment works best for their server. And players will be able to filter for those settings as well to find servers that fit their preferences.

                                But remember, the greatest tool against cheaters is an active community both reporting cheaters (to Steam with the built in report function, and PB Bans) as well as forwarding any cheats they can get their hands on to any of the parties involved (ourselves which is preferable as we can get it to all the others quickly, EvenBalance and the VAC Team).
                                Words cannot express how much I love the effort that was put into all of this.

                                Great job TWI.
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