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  • #16
    Reporting Back

    Changing Map Loading Times (Online Gaming) & Note about General Performance during the Game

    I have to Say that before i changed anything with PreCaches, CacheSizeMegs, and "Reduce Mouse Lag", also Defragment my Drive (Hard Disk), i had to wait like 2 minutes in average.
    So thanks for this thread and all its support by any posts.

    I decided to test the configuration with Precaching in the Option 2 given by “Zetsumei”, as “Them” said to test different settings. So remember this is with my own computer, which in this case is a laptop. So the configuration might be different for others.
    My System Details:
    OS: Windows Vista 32bits
    Processor: Intel Pentium Dual CPU T3200 2 GHz
    RAM: 3 GB
    Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce 9200 GE
    Sound Card: Conexant High Definition SmartAudio 221

    (Does 400MHz in the processor make a difference, for the recommended specs?)

    Anyway, I decided trying to help with some tests, as also, seeing what is the best configuration for me. I hope this info will be helpful for anyone having the same issues with loading maps, and it’s bothered/annoyed since they even have the recommended System Specifications.
    Lastly I hope that this will help Tripwire to figure out what it causes, and what can be changed, so we won’t have these troubles with manually configuring.

    Before I done this PreCache, CacheSizeMegs, "Reduce Mouse Lag", and Deframentation changes i had my Game Details at Low running in 800x600 windowed mode (remember that I had 2 minutes in average to load), and this tests were made after the Deframentation with: Game Details at High in 800x600 windowed mode.

    -The experiences consists in changing the Precache settings as for each experience is told, with 6 times counting (in seconds) changing map in online servers, ALWAYS lower than 80 ping (the best i can get is a 30/40 ping server). With only me in the game (blowing myself or letting get eaten by the monsters) so it would be much faster.
    Note: I close the game every time and then change the Precache settings before the next experience.
    Last edited by Joseph; 01-17-2010, 08:29 PM.

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    • #17
      Reporting Back (2)

      Experience 1 ("Default")

      Game Details=High
      Resolution=800x600
      Windowed mode
      With Defragmentation done
      CacheSizeMegs=32
      Reduce Mouse Lag = On
      All Precache Settings=True (Except bNeverPrecache=false)

      In Seconds
      1-12,5
      2-12,5
      3-18,3 (freeze by 1 second)
      4-14,4
      5-26,4 (freeze by 3 seconds)
      6-12,1
      Average=16,03

      General Performance in-game Note:
      No in-game lag spikes. No Crashing. Freezing at 3 and 5 attempt. Runs good.

      By this one I would conclude now that the defragmentation did a lot of difference in the loading. It’s quiet normal that this would happen tough.
      (Imagining a room and the stuff inside it, if you have your room cleaned and organized, you’ll find the stuff you need more quicker then with it as my room usually looks like: a mess! Lol. Same as the Hard Disk would be the room, the stuff would be the KF files, and you the processor.)

      The files from time to time get “lost” in the drive, and so, when the processor tries to read the files it needs, it takes more time then if the files are all in their places.


      The rest of the experiences were with:
      Game Details=High
      Resolution=800x600
      Windowed mode
      With Defragmentation done
      CacheSizeMegs=256
      Reduce Mouse Lagging = Off

      Experience 2
      -"UsePrecaching=True" to False, the "bNeverPrecache=false" to true and "UsePreCache=True" to False.
      As the Option 2 says.

      1 - 18,7
      2 - 11,2
      3 - 8,5
      4 - 12,0
      5 - 10,9
      6 - 9,7
      Average=11,83

      General Performance in-game Note:
      Some lag spikes during the game. No crashing or freezing. Runs ok.

      Experience 3
      -"bNeverPrecache=false" to true and "UsePreCache=True" to False.
      Leaving the "UsePrecaching=True".

      1-11,4
      2-13,7
      3-33,7
      4-28,5
      5-17,7
      6-23,4
      Average=21,4

      General Performance in-game Note:
      No in-game lag spikes. No crashing or freezing. Runs great.

      Experience 4
      -"UsePrecaching=True" to False and "UsePreCache=True" to False.
      Leaving the "bNeverPrecache=false".

      1-8
      2-12,9
      3-9,8
      4-10,7
      5-11,1
      6-10,8
      Average=10,55

      General Performance in-game Note:
      In-game lag spikes, during the game. No Crashing. No Freezing. Runs ok.

      Experience 5
      -"UsePrecaching=True" to False and "bNeverPrecache=false" to true.
      Leaving the "UsePreCache=True".

      1-9,1
      2-11,8
      3-8,1
      4-9,9
      5-9,3
      6-11,9
      Average=10,01

      General Performance in-game Note:
      No in-game spike lags. No crashing. No freezing. Runs good.

      Experience 6
      -"bNeverPrecache=false" to true.
      Leaving the "UsePrecaching=True" and "UsePreCache=True".

      1-17,8
      2-13,2
      3-25,0
      4-18,4
      5-15,6
      6-19,9
      Average=18,32

      General Performance in-game Note:
      No in-game lag spikes. No crashing. Freezing a bit in the 3 attempt. Runs good.

      Experience 7
      -"UsePrecaching=True" to False.
      Leaving the "UsePreCache=True" and "bNeverPrecache=false".

      1-8,9
      2-10,7
      3-12,7
      4-11,2
      5-25,0 (Not Responding for about 5 seconds)
      6-14,1
      7-11,1
      Average=13,38

      General Performance in-game Note:
      Lag spikes at the beginning and during the game. No crashing. Freezing at the 5 attempt and 2 times during the game. Runs ok.

      Experience 8
      -"UsePreCache=True" to False.
      Leaving the "bNeverPrecache=false" and "UsePrecaching=True".

      1-12,1
      2-12,5
      3-12,1
      4-39,9 (weird..)
      5-26,4
      6-10,8
      7-8,2
      8-10,5
      Extended this one because of that 39,9 witch was weird since the 7 and 8 were a 8 and a 10.
      Average=16,56

      General Performance in-game Note:
      No in-game lag spikes. No crashing. Freezing a bit in the 4, and 5 attempts. Runs ok, but i think not 100% smooth.


      Conclusions:

      Best Average Time Loading: Experience 5
      Best In-Game evaluation: Experience 3

      Best 3 Average Time Loading (Best to Worse): 5, 4, 2.
      Best 3 In-Game Evaluation (Best to Worse): 3, 5, 6.

      I guess I will use the settings for the fifth or third experiences. Even though the loading time wasn’t so good in the third experiment (21,4), I had a great in-game experience. Still, the best in general performance was the Fifth Experiment.

      So it’s done.
      Now I would be appreciated to know, opinions, ideas, self-experiences.
      Was this worth for anything?
      Were the conditions good enough?
      What suits best for you? Telling what Specs you have. (in a quick view without all the details)
      Am I wrong in something I said?

      Thanks for your time reading this huge post.
      Hope it helps somehow…
      Last edited by Joseph; 01-17-2010, 08:28 PM.

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      • #18
        It got to be usefull to atleast some others, so thank you for that contribution ^^. Ill make defragmentation a bit of a clearer option in my first post as well.
        Last edited by Zetsumei; 01-17-2010, 08:20 PM.

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        • #19
          A thread that might help too:
          http://forums.tripwireinteractive.co...ad.php?t=40370

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          • #20
            Hm here's a problem.

            Option2: Turn of PreCaching
            1) Find your KillingFloor.ini file located in the steam/steamapps/common/KillingFLoor/system folder (hint it looks like a notpad icon with a cog)
            2) Change the values listed below:

            under [ALAudio.ALAudioSubsystem]
            Change UsePrecache=True to UsePrecache=False

            and under [Engine.LevelInfo]
            Change bNeverPrecache=false to bNeverPrecache=true

            and under [Engine.NullRenderDevice]
            Change UsePrecaching=True to UsePrecaching=False

            and under [D3DDrv.D3DRenderDevice]
            Change UsePrecaching=True to UsePrecaching=False

            and under [D3D9Drv.D3D9RenderDevice]
            Change UsePrecaching=True to UsePrecaching=False

            and under [OpenGLDrv.OpenGLRenderDevice]
            Change UsePrecaching=True to UsePrecaching=False

            and under [PixoDrv.PixoRenderDevice]
            Change UsePrecaching=True to UsePrecaching=False
            This entries don't exist in my .ini file!
            (ALAudio exists)
            May someone upload his .ini file using a win7 64 bit system?
            Last edited by Skalli; 05-11-2010, 01:06 PM.
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            • #21
              Options 2 and 3 helped me and four other friends go from 5 minute load times to instant. Thanks!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Skalli View Post
                Hm here's a problem.

                This entries don't exist in my .ini file!
                (ALAudio exists)
                May someone upload his .ini file using a win7 64 bit system?
                You are probably looking at the user.ini and not the killingfloor.ini

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                • #23
                  Can I ask that this thread be retitled to make it clearer that its content addresses both long load times and ingame temporary freezes?

                  EDIT:
                  Originally posted by Vaecrius View Post
                  Some options that seem to help:

                  - setting every single thing that says anything about precaching to say that it won't precache (eg "bNeverPrecache" to True, "UsePrecaching" to False)
                  - setting "DetectedVideoMemory" higher (or at least having it reflect actual video memory)
                  - setting "NVidiaPreFX" to True
                  - setting "CheckForOverflow" to True

                  Still got them but they're not quite as bad.
                  Last edited by Vaecrius; 01-09-2011, 05:55 PM.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Zetsumei View Post
                    Note: Turning off precaching can give you a lot of benefits in loading time and in performance, as it means the game only loads things when it needs them. It also means that you must have a properly defragmented harddisc or otherwise you could get big freezes once the first specimen dies or spawns for example, as that would be the moment when they would be loaded.
                    Am I right in saying that turning off precaching would only give, potentially, better performance if your PC has a low amount of RAM installed? Wouldn't it actually cause worse performance on a system with a large amount of RAM installed? (4GB+).

                    Why would it ever result in a higher performance on a high-end-ish system?
                    Last edited by Proxyhat; 08-22-2012, 06:44 PM.

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                    • #25
                      The first link you posted (http://forums.tripwireinteractive.co...ad.php?t=38803) is now broken.

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