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  • #16
    Originally posted by Amber Glass View Post
    and the reload speed, i find myself preferring the MP7 almost all the time, unless im using it offperk.
    Plus, the healspam makes you sloppy with your aim using the MP5, which is why I quit using it. MP7 is a head destroyer, even on HoE.

    I hated the combat shotgun when I first started using it, but now I actually like it. .44 is ok, should have stayed 2 slots. M4, not really sure about. It is a pretty common weapon worldwide. Also, MW2 is actually a decent game once you turn off that loud annoying music, at least the singleplayer is.

    For the commando, I find the AK fine at all ranges. It is pretty much my "everything" rifle.
    Last edited by Rainydaykid; 03-29-2012, 05:52 PM.


    • #17
      I'm probably nowhere near as experienced, but my thoughts on stuff I've used:

      CSG: It's been a nice sidegrade from the shotty, but it's just so costly in comparison. If it was flat out better I could roll with the pricetag, but since it's been balanced to be different, instead of better, the price should reflect that.

      Magnum: Hate it on Sharp, hate it a lot, but it's proven itself a very worthy companion as a Zerker. I hate crawlers with a passion and this just kills them dead easily. I think the general consensus of "2kg pls" would really help it fit in to a role of an off-perk weapon for classes that need something that "shoots the bullets" without sacrificing much weight. Maybe drop the price 50-100 or so as well.

      Claymore: I love Katana Zerker too much to really play with it a lot, much prefer fast attacks.

      M4 203: Took it once, never again. M74 just does anything I want that this could do anyway, besides popping smallfry, which is what having a sidegrade gun is for. I'd probably consider it more if it was cheaper, but with how unearthly expensive it is, I've always had better luck just taking a sidearm.


      • #18
        Originally posted by Althamus View Post
        However, thinking about it, what weapon can you take that costs 3 weight and would be actively useful? Katana.... Medic gun?
        MP5 is actually excellent for a sharp, if he can get it at discounted price. The healing altfire can be a noteworthy advantage if your team or medic aren't great. But the real reason it's good with sharps is that the sharp's universal headshot bonus lets you decap trash in one shot, even on HoE. So it's a great trash weapon, .44 is a decent siren/husk gun, and Xbow makes Scrakes easy and FPs manageable.

        Sorry for the digression, back to what OP asked:
        MP7: Awesome
        .44 Mag: When they reweigh it back to 2, awesome, but for now it's a poor choice unless your main concern is looking cool.
        Claymore/M4/Combat Shotgun: Nice intermediates between existing roles
        M4203: Rarely worthwhile, but always fun.
        Husk Gun: Neat, but it has more intricacies than I know, so I don't don't know how potentially good it can be.
        Last edited by Azukki; 06-01-2012, 06:48 AM.


        • #19
          Originally posted by Azukki View Post
          MP5 is actually excellent for a sharp, if he can get it at discounted price.
          I disagree, while the MP5 is certainly great for the sharpshooter the MP7 is far better because of the greater spread, allowing for easier headshots in close quarters. Oh, and you spawn with one.
          Know the difference!


          • #20
            yeah but the 20 round cap offperk is crippling, add the high ROF into the equation and you have yourself an empty magazine a good deal of the time. also the MP5's quicker syringe recharge is much nicer offperk. if the MP7 had 25 rounds unperked, id choose it over the MP5 every single time, i already do as medic.

            also to anyone questioning the usefulness of the combat shotty, ill leave this here:
            Killing Floor: Even Moar Demo Derpiness - YouTube

            it has become one of my favorite weapons to carry offperk, it especially rocks as commando due to the reload speed buff


            • #21
              I have to agree with using the CBS off perk.

              But screw the price. It needs a significant reduction. I say bring it to match the regular pumpy at


              • #22
                definitely agree on the pricing, at the very least reduce the price of ammo to match the pump, they have the same exact stats ammunition wise, doesnt make sense the combat's ammo costs 3x as much


                • #23
                  Rather then decrease its price to match its usefulness, give it a buff to match it's price. I think they need to increase total ammo held - from 48 shells to 56 (and from 62 to 72 with the L6 ammo bonus) - and maybe speed the reload up a bit.
                  Currently, its semi-auto capability is something of a detriment: you expend the magazine too quickly and it reloads to slowly. A boost to total ammo and reload speed should make it's primary advantage over the pump action more prominent.


                  • #24
                    if all they did was add one more shell to the magazine i'd be content


                    • #25
                      Originally posted by The Clown View Post
                      Rather then decrease its price to match its usefulness, give it a buff to match it's price. I think they need to increase total ammo held - from 48 shells to 56 (and from 62 to 72 with the L6 ammo bonus) - and maybe speed the reload up a bit.
                      Currently, its semi-auto capability is something of a detriment: you expend the magazine too quickly and it reloads to slowly. A boost to total ammo and reload speed should make it's primary advantage over the pump action more prominent.
                      I'm for this, but I still think the price is too much. They ought (imho) to ditch that ****ty tacticool reflex sight and drop the drice down to 1000-1500 quid, making it 2-3x more expensive than the shotgun always, in addition to the rather hefty ammo price your proposal would entail.
                      Know the difference!


                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Lacedaemonius View Post
                        I disagree, while the MP5 is certainly great for the sharpshooter the MP7 is far better because of the greater spread, allowing for easier headshots in close quarters. Oh, and you spawn with one.
                        I find it very hard to fire just one shot with the MP7 while aiming, so that usually means only ten potential kills per mag. MP5 fires at a slower rate that makes it manageable to fire one shot at a time, so that's a potential of 32 kills per mag.
                        Also, on HoE, the MP7 takes two shots even as sharp.
                        Spawning with one is definitely a plus, though.


                        • #27
                          IMO, the MP5 is a great upgrade from the MP7. Now, maybe its because I joined during the christmas event, thanks the free weekend thing, but I like using the mp5 because it basically gives you 3 healing darts at once, where as the mp7 only gives 2 darts at a time. Being a lvl 6 medic, the recharge is amazing, but it sucks being able to ony use two healing darts, because people keep moving randomly, and sometimes lag makes it miss, or even the fake green puff makes me think that i hit the palyer, when actually, I didnt.

                          As for the other weapons, I only know that the claymore is a nice substitue for the katana/axe pair. Ive used it a few times, and although its a slow hitter, it works well with my lvl 4 zerker. However, I would never use the claymore as an off perk weapon. Too slow, weights too much, and doesnt fit any of the other perks that well.

                          Husk cannon, I just dont feel like its that good at all. yes it has charged shots, yes it can fire long distances and even stun husks, but its easy to chew through the ammo.

                          And as for the combat shotgun, its very useful for soloist, but in groups, its too easy to waste shots by accidently firing more shots than what was nessacry.
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