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  • #16
    How to improve the TWI forums : AUTHOMATOTHICALLY ban b3n1oxXxe

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Splatpope View Post
      How to improve the TWI forums : AUTHOMATOTHICALLY ban b3n1oxXxe
      Even better idea - authomatically ban Splatpope. That'd improve much more. Going offtopic and insulting others isn't the way you gain friends.

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      • #18
        Stop flame war at once or all participants will be properly rewarded.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Ghost1942 View Post
          Your ideas are generally not thought out very well. How would forcing a vote kick against a person team killing solve the issue? All this would cause is for the griefer to jump into the teammates fire, getting themselves killed, and then kicking that player from the game since it only requires that single punishment. Then to go deeper into your idea of having people get banned from the server after being kicked 5 times, well that just means rinse and repeat the above method and now said greifer just caused a honest player to be banned from the server. That sure seems like a great solution huh? The only real way to control griefing is to have an active admin, who responds to reports of griefers in the server. Obviously they cant do it every second but then can ban players who grief via honest players reporting such activities. If you cant handle such a thing they just simply dont play on servers that have friendly fire enabled.


          About your audio problem, I dont know anyone who has had an issue with the VOIP system being quiet at all, the only thing it does suffer from is poor audio quality. With many different tests of the system there is most likely the fault that either the person who is talking to you over the mic has their setting badly setup and its sending the voice quietly, or your audio settings are just not setup correctly for such things.


          Age restrictions just dont work. Its silly to even believe that it would work. How would you even enforce such a thing? I am pretty sure a 10 year old can get onto an adult site that has age restrictions, so what would stop them from getting into KF servers? Do you honestly believe that when it comes up asking for their age, that they would tell the truth so as not to be allowed to get into the server? Have you ever been on the internet? are you that naive?

          I dont want to be a prick but you obviously dont even put research or anything into your ideas. It is really not at all difffcult to find the mute function for players, yet you feel the need to suggest it before even looking for more than a second? I know you want to help the KF community and game but from what I read, you dont do much good at that.

          And on a side note, you say you play normal mode, and you have many many hours of play and all perks level 6, but you have problems with kids messing around with off perked weapons and such? Are you really that bad at the game even after playing so much? Normal difficulty becomes a joke for anyone who is even half decent at the game.
          Okay.. so from beginning...
          I made 2 topics before, and got research running for looong time and what I came up with is result of like... 5 months of research (yes, I started it imidiatelly when I started playing Killing Floor once again) and well, as I said that's what I came up with, which means you guys may have different solutions, and this topic is exactly the question for solutions you guys have.
          The forced kick seemed to work for me as far as I thought of Wolvenstein ET, mostly that system worked there... but after reading what you said, I think one more factor should be concidered - griefers getting under your gunfire. Remember, after player gets kicked he can't join until next map, so it's not likely same griefer will do it 5 times in row, but still possible. Now, thinking of it, admin should get also report on who got under who's fire, and if seems like it happened all 5 times to same players, that would ring a bell, and admin could un-ban the player and ban the other, but first, before banning the other, he should try to catch both players online and see how it really is. As I stated out - active admins are important and even maybe best solution, but what if the favourite server, with your favourite settings etc would have the admin not so active? That'd be a problem...
          About audio problem - I checked all possible settings, and as I said - it's only in KF that it's too quiet, but now that you say quality is worse, maybe it's just the quality... but still, it's so weird that so many people got microphones too quiet in KF and not on steam if that is it...
          As for age restrictions, yes, I see the problem here... but keeping dreaming isn't bad, is it...? For some reason still porn sites say don't get in unless you are 18, obviously doesn't work, BUT it warns still... maybe a warning at least would do?
          "I dont want to be a prick but you obviously dont even put research or anything into your ideas" - 5 months of playing at 2 servers only, and checking how people play there is actualy something what I could call research being put into my ideas. As I said - my ideas are based upon my experience.
          As for mute option - I swear I searched that over and over, asked people, and noone answered me, I haven't found, either, and even now that someone answered me today, I checked it in KF, and couldn't find. I think problem is I should do it only when I am in-game cuz only then it works, but then when could I do that while hordes of zeds are going to chew on me?
          And yes, I do want to help, I do want to make KF better and friendlier, I got issues, I get mad really quick, and KF is only thing I can get relaxed with unless there's my girlfriend around, and she lives in Sweden while I live in Poland... so yeah, egoistic maybe, sorry for that, but I just want to have at least one thing to enjoy without having griefers, mic-spammers and such problems with that... but yeah, I do fail on helping, I am not that important, these days the power is in the hands of governments, famous and rich people...
          And for that:
          Spoiler!

          Have you ever played MISSION maps such as Resident Evil 1 Mansion? Have you ever played as coomando/support/firebug/demo/sharpshooter without ammo and kevlar because of griefers and people who steal weapons you'd need is that easy? Do you think that playing and at the same time explaining to at least one person how to play properly is easy with zeds spawning around? Mostly the problem isn't to win or survive, not at all - the problem is the quality of play - isn't it alot more enjoyable with people who play properly than with people who grief, steal ammo and weapons, play off-perk and die at every beginning of wave?

          Well, so for the last thing I want to say for now is - yes, I am not pro, yes, I have problems with other players, yes, I have problems to apply to the people who play other way than it is intended to, yes, I have problems... I have issues, okay? But it doesn't mean I try to improve myself, but it'd make it easier if some of the issues got fixed...

          Ah besides, I stopped playing at ff servers, not cuz I don't like them, but cuz I play story mode server lately as I said, and am writing down names of griefers and I plan to send them to admin, but damn, I am almost certain that the admin is one of them...

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          • #20
            1. make your own server
            2. enforce all your little rules and stipulations and leave the rest of us alone
            3. ???
            4. profit

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            • #21
              1. make your own server
              2. enforce all your little rules and stipulations and leave the rest of us alone
              3. ???
              4. profit
              ^This
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Murphy View Post
                1. make your own server
                2. enforce all your little rules and stipulations and leave the rest of us alone
                3. ???
                4. profit
                Fix my router and port forwarding and get me a PC which'd be running servers good and explain how to work with dedicaded servers stuff and I will sure do that... not to mention my poor net connection should be fixed, so find solution for that as well...

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by BenioX View Post
                  Fix my router and port forwarding and get me a PC which'd be running servers good and explain how to work with dedicaded servers stuff and I will sure do that... not to mention my poor net connection should be fixed, so find solution for that as well...
                  Or just do what everyone else does and rent one at gameservers.com.


                  Originally posted by BenioX View Post
                  Have you ever played MISSION maps such as Resident Evil 1 Mansion? Have you ever played as coomando/support/firebug/demo/sharpshooter without ammo and kevlar because of griefers and people who steal weapons you'd need is that easy? Do you think that playing and at the same time explaining to at least one person how to play properly is easy with zeds spawning around? Mostly the problem isn't to win or survive, not at all - the problem is the quality of play - isn't it alot more enjoyable with people who play properly than with people who grief, steal ammo and weapons, play off-perk and die at every beginning of wave?
                  Ok.. so from beginning..

                  You are dealing with different people. People who do not think the way you do; for better or worse. People who want to play the game the way they want to play the game; not the way you want them to play. People who are playing the game with huge pings or with crappy integrated graphics. People who happened to do the stupidest thing like light an FP on fire and the FP died due to an unseen xbow HS. So now that player thinks lighting an FP across the map is a good idea and he keeps doing it because it "worked" the first time. Or some lvl 4 sharpie who thinks he is a KF god playing with a bullpup on HoE because he wants to kill stalkers and lvl commando. Or a lvl 6 zerker who logs in and wants to play his own game because zerkers are basically invulnerable and he doesn't care about the other players in the game. Or any other scenario where a player doesn't do what YOU want them to do.

                  It happens. People do different things than you because THEY ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE. It sounds obvious but many people go through life never realizing that simple truth.

                  I've been playing a pure demo on HoE lately. Want to talk about a tough game? That's tough. Yeah, I know. There are going to be 50 people telling me how easy it is and how they solo HoE all the time. I've had zerkers log in who run off on their own. I've had LVL ZERO medics log in. I've had lvl 2 support log in who go after scrakes with the knife. And so on and so on and so on. And you know what can be done about it?

                  Option 1) Get the team to kick them. Sometimes it works. More often than not, it doesn't.
                  Option 2) Leave the server. That option always works.

                  Do you think you're the only person who has died because some idiot was using an unperked weapon? Or because they raged a scrake that was being handled by a zerker? Or had a weapon stolen (and sold) after you jumped in front of an FP to save the team and died? Or lost a mission map because some guy did something stupid? Or been killed because that one guy just doesn't understand FF? Or had someone else grab an ammo box when you wanted it? Or watch some guy with 80% armor grab spawned armor when other people didn't have any armor? It has happened to everyone one of us. And you know what? You, just like everyone else who has played the game, has done something stupid and gotten the team wiped. Multiple times. It happens. Learn to deal with it or just leave the game and start a new one. I promise you that the next Farm map you play will be exactly the same as the last one.

                  After your seeing behavior and ways of dealing with people you don't agree with here, I have the feeling that your way of "explaining" isn't view by others as explaining.

                  Originally posted by BenioX View Post
                  Well, so for the last thing I want to say for now is - yes, I am not pro, yes, I have problems with other players, yes, I have problems to apply to the people who play other way than it is intended to, yes, I have problems... I have issues, okay? But it doesn't mean I try to improve myself, but it'd make it easier if some of the issues got fixed...
                  Yeah you do. You necroed a 2 year old thread just to insult me out of the blue and for no good reason. http://forums.tripwireinteractive.co...5&postcount=47

                  Originally posted by BenioX View Post
                  Ah besides, I stopped playing at ff servers, not cuz I don't like them, but cuz I play story mode server lately as I said, and am writing down names of griefers and I plan to send them to admin, but damn, I am almost certain that the admin is one of them...
                  No one cares. Really. You need to understand that. And it doesn't do any good. Listen to me. Rather than trying to deal with and "fix" ALL OF THE OTHER PLAYERS, just learn to deal with it yourself.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by BenioX View Post
                    Fix my router and port forwarding and get me a PC which'd be running servers good and explain how to work with dedicaded servers stuff and I will sure do that... not to mention my poor net connection should be fixed, so find solution for that as well...
                    Wait, wait, wait....let me wrap my head around something here and tell me if I'm wrong. You think that Tripwire should change the game that 1,000,000 people have purchased to fit your expectations and desires because you don't want to do ANYTHING required to run your own server.

                    You post on EVERYTHING in the forums. Spend some of that time and get a JOB then you can buy a better computer and pay for better internet connection then spend some time figuring out how to run a dedicated server instead of writing your opinion about ever god d**n thread on the forums telling everyone they need to change things. You have a few options of how you will reply:

                    1. You will tell me I didn't read anything you wrote and try to re-explain a bunch of ideas that do not need to be re-written

                    2. You will tell me that accomplishing the tasks of buying your own computer and connection are impossible

                    3. You will consider what has been written and decide that sometimes in life when you think everyone around you has a problem it's not them, but, in fact you, with the problem. I know this to be true from personal experience and it is a tough pill to swallow but your life will unfold in a much more pleasant fashion when you become aware of your flaws and attempt to deal with them maturely.

                    Best of luck to you BenioX : )

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                    • #25
                      And to aid in the quest of learning here is an entire subforum dedicated to (heh) dedicated servers.
                      http://forums.tripwireinteractive.co...splay.php?f=59
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                      • #26
                        I don't think its even allowed to make another thread about the same thing. (its even in the title). That's why we also jumped on this and got silenced by the mods. Hate to say it though :



                        Time to close this before it gets out of control again. These threads don't add anything to these boards...
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                        • #27
                          Well, fine... I guess my plans to quit KF for yet another year seemed best idea, maybe in a year players will be different, maybe in a year community will understand that trying to aply and fail as well as trying to fix anything seems pointless when it comes to KF, and maybe someone will understand I did my best on both making servers, fixing my router, collecting money for new PC and so on. I just failed, I do fail and will always fail, as I said before, I do know my flows, I do know I have problems, but God dammit, understand it that it'd be easier for me if there were no problems other than trying to apply myself and not enjoy KF. Peace out, back to unloved Left 4 Dead 2

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by BenioX View Post
                            Well, fine... I guess my plans to quit KF for yet another year seemed best idea, maybe in a year players will be different, maybe in a year community will understand that trying to aply and fail as well as trying to fix anything seems pointless when it comes to KF, and maybe someone will understand I did my best on both making servers, fixing my router, collecting money for new PC and so on. I just failed, I do fail and will always fail, as I said before, I do know my flows, I do know I have problems, but God dammit, understand it that it'd be easier for me if there were no problems other than trying to apply myself and not enjoy KF. Peace out, back to unloved Left 4 Dead 2
                            I think all you need to do is load kf instead of kf forums and complain.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by BenioX View Post
                              I am pretty sure you remember those 2 threads:
                              http://forums.tripwireinteractive.co...ad.php?t=76227
                              http://forums.tripwireinteractive.co...ad.php?t=78226

                              I want to assure you guys though, I did NOT intend to insult anyone but those, who make the KF game into playground where nasty, rude children make mess and throw bad names randomly and hurt anyone who's nearby.
                              Now to the point: Those threads were about my experiences with Killing Floor and my questions on how to improve, how to make KF enjoyable, how to handle those kinds of players. ....
                              Hello. I wanted to respond here to tell my version of similar experiences with my Urt servers over the past three years. One of the things I did with my ioquake3 binary was I had a chat filter, player name filter, and chat-word replacement filter coded. It was quite an ordeal because people would constantly use profanity and calls others noobs. So I had my Urt servers replace "noob" with "friend". Other words only come out in chat as **** (or whatever replacement character I select).

                              Another thing I did was to have a CBan (communication ban) feature coded that prevents a player from using radio or chat if we find they have gotten out of control. Of course all of this is on the ioquake3 engine, but certainly chat filters could be coded without too much ado.

                              Just thought I would throw my 2 cents in here since I spent many years trying to overcome players who like to be azzclowns and disruptive to others. One thing I also learned was that no matter what you fix or block, the players will always find a way to exploit or glitch it (especially with chat filters).
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by BenioX View Post
                                Well, fine... I guess my plans to quit KF for yet another year seemed best idea, maybe in a year players will be different, maybe in a year community will understand that trying to aply and fail as well as trying to fix anything seems pointless when it comes to KF, and maybe someone will understand I did my best on both making servers, fixing my router, collecting money for new PC and so on. I just failed, I do fail and will always fail, as I said before, I do know my flows, I do know I have problems, but God dammit, understand it that it'd be easier for me if there were no problems other than trying to apply myself and not enjoy KF. Peace out, back to unloved Left 4 Dead 2
                                No one cares.
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