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  • #31
    Originally posted by Spicy View Post
    Because it's really hard to understand that you're buying Killing Floor. And you're buyin the 6 DLC character packs. And you're buying the female character. The Gold Box is a full game plus DLC. That's what people are buying if/ when they buy the Gold Box.

    I just don't get how some people with the game are "ok, I'll just buy it and gift the other stuff away" and others are "omg, I already have that ****, I'm getting ripped off." Gift it or don't buy it. Either way, more female characters are on the way in the future.

    As you said: premium price to HAVE IT NOW. Cheaper price to wait and buy it later. Like choosing shipping when you buy something online. You can pay $30 to get it tomorrow or the day after, or go with free shipping, but wait 1-2 weeks.
    ^ This
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    • #32
      Originally posted by nutterbutter View Post
      Of course they do. This thread is about people BLAMING TWI or ACCUSING TWI of doing this to rip off their customers. Which TWI isn't doing.
      I fully agree, they've suddenly become the worst dev in history according to some but that's not my view.

      The thing I don't like is the way this has been done, the devs have known for some time that a female character has been asked for here and on the steam forums and the only way to obtain that character is buying the full game again? Why would I buy a game I already own for 1 character? I wouldn't obviously and from what I can gather neither will a lot of people, the problem I have is this:

      People are lined up with money in hand (so to speak) waiting to buy this character via DLC yet that is being ignored, why? The work might have been commissioned by Iceberg but Tripwire own the game and if Iceberg are only interested in maximising profits then I think the returns would be much higher if that character was offered as DLC alongside the Gold Box Edition, as it stands at the moment, I have no interest in this boxed set and from what I've read, others will not be buying the game either even though they'd like the option of DLC. I will be cautious of any future purchases which I've never been before, they release DLC I buy it as I've always done but I can change that.

      What people are asking for is not unreasonable yet it's not an option that's available.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by nutterbutter View Post
        Of course they do. This thread is about people BLAMING TWI or ACCUSING TWI of doing this to rip off their customers. Which TWI isn't doing.




        Are you? How do you not understand that this thread is about people misunderstanding the situation and accusing TWI of ripping of their customers and making them pay full price for a single char. That is not what is happening.

        Case in point

        Of course the female char will be available in a DLC at a later time. Making the new stuff available for a higher price in a premium package at first is a standard business practice. So you can't download the new chick char immediately. Waah. You'll get over it. Iceberg is simply trying to maximize the return on their time and investment.

        I'm guessing that TWI entered into an agreement with Iceberg that minimized their possible losses. Iceberg separately created and developed the char on their dime and TWI gets paid for their testing and other services with new licenses. That way TWI has to put up an absolute minimum of capital up front and they can see how this arrangement will work and if it turns a profit. If this experiment does turn a significant profit for both companies, then look for TWI to contract out additional work for requested features. Of course if everyone complains for every wrong reason and continues to call TWI the greatest evil since one hour martinizing, expect TWI to say screw it and give KF the attention every other game company gives a three year old game based on an old and obsolete gaming engine.

        This could turn out so well for EVERYONE yet many people can't get over the immature disappoint of (GASP) NOT GETTING A FEMALE CHAR IMMEDIATELY and simply strike out at the company that is actually making this happen. "I WANT WHAT I WANT AND WHEN I WANT IT AND HOW I WANT IT IF I DON'T GET IT EXACTLY THAT WAY THEN I AM GOING TO COMPLAIN LIKE TWI HAS A GUN TO MY DOG'S HEAD."




        It is nothing like that. There are so many differences between buying a car and wanting new headlights (WTF?) and a new char first available in a full purchase of a game that I'm not even going to start to list them.
        Nutter justification like that sucks. Things like that lead to doing stuff like Capcom started to do or Activision or EA.
        I already baguht reatail KF, i own every DLC character pack and i would still support TWI by buiying next DLC's. But selling same game twice is just wrong. If i will be assured that this character will be in next character pack with 3 others i would not mind this tactic. But if it will be not there, than TRI will get a big minus from me, and i know that they would not give a crap about it but still wort to post it here.

        I just hate new gaming world with all those payable DLC's and 10 diffrent versions (enchantnted, collectors, goty and others). Wonder when whole this thing got a wrong turn...

        Originally posted by ~Ren~ View Post
        I fully agree, they've suddenly become the worst dev in history according to some but that's not my view.
        Im interested in RO2 at all, was not earlier, and even more im not now. Im here becouse of KF, becouse i like THIS game not other products of TRI. And as long im still liking KF i dont give a crap what others say about it.
        Last edited by Necro-71; 04-21-2012, 05:01 PM.

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        • #34
          I hadn't seen this post before I made mine but I think it's a great decision, nice to see you do still take on board players concerns:

          http://forums.tripwireinteractive.co...2&postcount=96

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          • #35
            Frankly, I'm one of the few who don't care about getting a girl character, though I sure don't agree with what had been planned.

            But now that I saw what's linked in the post above, everything is lovely once again. (lol michael rosen)

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            • #36
              Originally posted by ~Ren~ View Post
              I hadn't seen this post before I made mine but I think it's a great decision, nice to see you do still take on board players concerns:

              http://forums.tripwireinteractive.co...2&postcount=96
              Heh, retailers again.
              Whisky's Workshop
              "As you can see here, I'm -ALL ON MY F***ING OWN! Guys where the hell are you?!"

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              • #37
                And now the sun shines like never before and never after

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                • #38
                  Oh wow. I'm on the ignore list, my posts are set to invisible...

                  Guess I know too much lol
                  >.>
                  Last edited by Olivier; 04-22-2012, 09:06 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by ~Ren~ View Post
                    I hadn't seen this post before I made mine but I think it's a great decision, nice to see you do still take on board players concerns:

                    http://forums.tripwireinteractive.co...2&postcount=96
                    Now this is great news.

                    Hopefully this will settle things down and we can all get back to exterminating zed.
                    [IMG]http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=26704&dateline=1443582568[/IMG]

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                    • #40
                      I'm still thinking Iceberg could earn much more money, releasing female character as DLC (for a 5EUR, for example) and splitting profit with TWI. If Iceberg guys were, they could try to sign up a contract with TWI to receive 20% profit of selling every female character ever built in the future (this could be especially good for them in a long run).

                      Instead of receiving 5EUR from 500k players, they've chosen to charge 50k players for a 25EUR. Si let them learn economics the hard way.
                      KF-DarkZone released! Check it out...

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by poosh View Post
                        I'm still thinking Iceberg could earn much more money, releasing female character as DLC (for a 5EUR, for example) and splitting profit with TWI. If Iceberg guys were, they could try to sign up a contract with TWI to receive 20% profit of selling every female character ever built in the future (this could be especially good for them in a long run).

                        Instead of receiving 5EUR from 500k players, they've chosen to charge 50k players for a 25EUR. Si let them learn economics the hard way.
                        They should just make new character + future 3 female chars DLC free for people who baught Golden and relese standard character pack with all 4 as standard DLC for those who alredy own KF and rest of the packs.

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                        • #42
                          So you can pay for a game + dlc you may already have to get a female character early...
                          You can wait and pay when that character is most likely going to be released as dlc...
                          And you have hope for a possible all or partial female character dlc in the future because it's now been coded and voiced and there's really no reason not to do so...

                          Win/win, no?

                          The customer is always right

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Olivier View Post
                            Oh wow. I'm on the ignore list, my posts are set to invisible...

                            Guess I know too much lol
                            >.>
                            I can see your posts

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by YoYoBatty View Post
                              I can see your posts
                              Yeah, I was set on the ignore list but not even Yoshiro knows why

                              Cheers guys, I'm out of here.

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                              • #45
                                I thought it was weird seeing all your posts gone yesterday

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