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  • possibility of steamless release?

    any plans for, or is it going to be possible in the future, to be able to get this game direct from tripwire or from other download retailers in a version without steam?

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    Why such a need for a non-steam version? Many people ask for non-steam versions of games, but why won't you use steam?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by C_Gibby View Post
      Why such a need for a non-steam version? Many people ask for non-steam versions of games, but why won't you use steam?
      Why would you use Steam? First of all theres the thing that you need to install a third-party program on your computer, you also need to run the 3rd party program when you want to play the game. Also the game is only accessible through the 3rd party platform and you dont really own the game, theres a lot of problems Steam can cause.

      I myself think that Steam is hurting the market, maybe not yet, but you just wait, it will and I understand people that want to refrain from using it.

      E.g. The Ball was available through other shops and completely w/o DRM too! That would be nice!

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      • #4
        It's possible they might release a retail version, but it'll basically just be an install disc with a key code you enter on Steam to register it with your account. I highly doubt that they will release a completely Steam-free version though; Tripwire's games have always been Steam only, and I don't see them starting with Dwarfs.
        "Not all those who wander are lost." -J.R.R. Tolkien

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        • #5
          Originally posted by WhiteTigerShiro View Post
          Tripwire's games have always been Steam only, and I don't see them starting with Dwarfs.
          Nope.

          Originally posted by u-s-e-r View Post
          E.g. The Ball was available through other shops and completely w/o DRM too! That would be nice!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by C_Gibby View Post
            Why such a need for a non-steam version? Many people ask for non-steam versions of games, but why won't you use steam?
            because running it off a flash drive is fun ... I used to play many games like that.
            Last edited by jalex3; 05-05-2011, 10:24 AM.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by C_Gibby View Post
              Why such a need for a non-steam version? Many people ask for non-steam versions of games, but why won't you use steam?
              I like steam and use it for all my games, and are at a point I do not buy games that aren't on steam.

              But steam got a monopoly nearly in on-line distribution some do not want to support that. And finally in case of bad internet steam's drm is horrible, and its offline mode often doesn't do what its supposed to do.

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              • #8
                Steam is not a bad thing, it's a very good thing. Gabe made a smart move when he tought about Steam.

                I have absolutely no issues with Steam besides Gabe's stupid 1 US$ = 1


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                • #9
                  [QUOTE=Faneca;736715]Steam is not a bad thing, it's a very good thing. Gabe made a smart move when he tought about Steam.

                  I have absolutely no issues with Steam besides Gabe's stupid 1 US$ = 1

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                  • #10
                    While it would be fun to have a Steamless release, and even a Mac / Linux release, we have to put things against each other! Both these things would require a lot of work. It's not that we don't want to do that work, it's just, what could we do in that time?

                    At the moment we feel that making those who have bought it on Steam happy with free additional content, quick fixes and so forth is of higher priority than making ports!

                    I wish I could just clone myself but from what I found on google that technology doesn't seem to be quite ready yet

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by u-s-e-r View Post
                      Thats not up to Gabe, e.g. Tripwire hasnt got a straight conversion, its up to the publisher and voluntary.

                      But it would be really nice to see Dwarfs!? sold somewhere else too and without DRM would be great!
                      Unfortunately, I'm sure you know what happens to DRM-free games these days.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Merin Redplate View Post
                        Unfortunately, I'm sure you know what happens to DRM-free games these days.
                        Yes I know, what about it? There are still releases without DRM anyway.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by u-s-e-r View Post
                          Thats not up to Gabe, e.g. Tripwire hasnt got a straight conversion, its up to the publisher and voluntary.

                          But it would be really nice to see Dwarfs!? sold somewhere else too and without DRM would be great!

                          Well one of the hard parts of being a 2 man studio with only 1 programmer is that you can't do everything you want (at least not at once). If there are lots of people requesting this who knows

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Po2Teddy View Post
                            While it would be fun to have a Steamless release, and even a Mac / Linux release, we have to put things against each other! Both these things would require a lot of work. It's not that we don't want to do that work, it's just, what could we do in that time?

                            At the moment we feel that making those who have bought it on Steam happy with free additional content, quick fixes and so forth is of higher priority than making ports!

                            I wish I could just clone myself but from what I found on google that technology doesn't seem to be quite ready yet
                            ok. thanks for the answer. oh well, guess I'll play some more Avadon The Black Fortress instead. good luck with your game.


                            Originally posted by C_Gibby View Post
                            Why such a need for a non-steam version? Many people ask for non-steam versions of games, but why won't you use steam?
                            what? I could ask this same question to you, why such a need to force steam down peoples' throat?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Merin Redplate View Post
                              Unfortunately, I'm sure you know what happens to DRM-free games these days.
                              what happens to drm free games these days? I am sure pirates are duplicating copies of dwards!? as I am typing this as well, so what? steam doesn't stop piracy any more than no drm doesn't stop piracy. this thread was only made with the intention of spending money in mind, piracy doesn't enter into it at any point.

                              edit: weird, what happened to my previous post?
                              Last edited by derailed; 05-05-2011, 09:14 PM.

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